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  Re: Preview .dat and .ldr in Windows Explorer?
 
(...) A couple years ago I wrote something that created a popup window with the description of DAT/LCD files, like when you move the mouse over a Word or Excel file. You can try (URL) and see if it still works (I think the last OS I tried it on was (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: lsynth - LDRAW compatible bendable part synthesizer available  [DAT]
 
I tried this: 0 SYNTH BEGIN RIBBED_HOSE 100 LDU 1 7 -174 -20 -36 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 LS00.DAT 1 7 -10 48 -6 0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 LS00.DAT 0 SYNTH END It is straight from the readme.txt file. It does not work... Saved it as tube.dat and put both this (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) Yep agreed, it'd be nice if wee could individually select notifications from a list. And there are probably people who'd want a longer list than me too 8?) ROSCO (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) See, my point is that while YOU might be happy to know that, there is no one right answer. I certainly can imagine someone else not wanting to know about resubmits of holds they did a long time ago... (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) I'd be happy to know: 1. When a part I submitted gets a "hold" 2. When a part I submitted gets authorised 3. As Orion says, when a part I previously "held" is re-submitted. Not sure what's best here - ideally, this would include those I "held" (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) This topic (how much notification to give) just came up in real life requirements, so pardon the following ranting... Notification to my way of thinking serves two purposes... confirming the expected (we expect a part to progress through (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) I think notification is warrented for any activity involving parts I have submitted. Also, I think a message to me if an author resubmits a part I Hold voted would be nice -Orion (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) I don't know, is it? I never was able to decide what was the right level of announcements. I'm open to input on this point. :) Steve (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) to be sent out automatically. I'm going to run the 'send notices' program manually for awhile, until I'm more confident that it's working right. Steve (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Preview .dat and .ldr in Windows Explorer?
 
(...) Ooo! Yes, yes! That would be great! :) Steve (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) I'll see what I can do about preventing that. OTOH, think of it as a confirmation that your submitted file was actually posted. ;) Steve (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: lsynth - LDRAW compatible bendable part synthesizer available
 
Ahui, If you entered your synthesis statements as comments in MLCAD, then they will not work. MLCAD comments are of the form "0 WRITE COMMENT", instead of "0 COMMENT". Edit the specifications using an editor and get rid of the "WRITE" command and (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) hi, many, many thx steve. I've been waiting for this feature. unfortunately I got no message after a fix of mine has been reviewed :-(( (URL) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: lsynth - LDRAW compatible bendable part synthesizer available
 
Kevin I am having the same issue with lsynth. Could you post the results of your findings here? The ONLY thing I can get lsynth to create is the ldraw files you provide with the application. If I try to use the parts in my own models or even just (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
(...) Hi, I am notified simply because I have reviewed (not have been reviewed), that is a little too much, isn't it? Thanks to busy admins, Damien (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: lsynth - LDRAW compatible bendable part synthesizer available
 
Hi Jaco, If you could send me the DAT/LDR/MPD file I can examine it. Kevin kevin_clague@yahoo.com (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
Steve Bliss <partsref@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:H8J2Aw.DE2@lugnet.com... (...) Thanks for this tool. I got such a message after I send a fixed part (one of mine) to the tracker. So I think this is the right way, but I think there is no (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) In another branch of this thread it was my understanding that we had agreement on renaming box3#8p.dat to box3u8p.dat. Chris (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Preview .dat and .ldr in Windows Explorer?
 
How are those preview pics done that you can see to the left when Windows Explorer is set to view "As Web Page"? Wouldn't it be great if we could preview LDraw files just the same? If it's too complicated to make a graphic preview, just description (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) How about we stick with alphanumerics (case-insensitive) and '-' for now? We can explore other characters over time, if it becomes necessary. More likely, we'll (eventually) leave the 8.3 filename format behind. :\ Steve (22 years ago, 10-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) True, but it'd probably be better to restrict ourselves to a limited set of characters that are well-supported in file and path names on different OS's and protocols. But you already knew that, right? ;) Steve (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Parts Tracker Email Notification System
 
I'm not sure if this is an announcement, or more like a warning. ;) I've been working on implementing email notification in the Parts Tracker, so it will automatically send out information about files being reviewed and updated. The first messages (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: lsynth - LDRAW compatible bendable part synthesizer available
 
Is there someone who got it to work? Kevin? "Jaco van der Molen" <jmolen@globalxs.nl> wrote in message news:H8GC8B.3pq@lugnet.com... (...) DAT, (...) hoses, (...) creating (...) support (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) I'd have to look at the code again, but there's no reason why it couldn't deal with anything :) (22 years ago, 10-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
Hi Dwayne - (...) No reason that I see, in fact, it just hasn't happened yet :-) (...) Yup. (...) Absolutely. (...) It's funny how with this post you've hit the nail on the head with my current line of thinking. :-) Steve and I have been talking (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) Ok, got an even more general question. Any reason that a group, could be set aside to develop just the CAD engine, and allow it to be used for loads of things? I mean, the core engine programmers could develop the core parts of the program, (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) HTML can handle anything. So can HTTP, but of the characters listed above, I think it is only '-' and '_' which don't need special treatment. The next level of problems is that the parts tracker is implemented in Perl and running on a Unix (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: lsynth - LDRAW compatible bendable part synthesizer available
 
Hi Kevin! I cannot seem to get LSynth to work. The only thing it generates is the same file as the input file... What do I do wrong? Jaco (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
"Anders Isaksson" <isaksson.etuna@REMO...tninet.se> skrev i meddelandet news:H8CzME.6py@lugnet.com... (...) I (...) of (...) not (...) After seeing your .dat files, I'll repeat myself, those stones are *very* like the Anchor Stones, they even use (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
eads up, (...) it in a few hours, Dwayne (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
<snip> (...) Clone brands, seem to be growing in popularity, good or bad, it _should_ be good for even the purists, as it should drive down cost for the Lego Brand. Nothing I am going to complain about... LDraw means I no longer have to let the kids (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) You keep saying that, but I think thou dost protest too much. I'll bet you're right now sitting on a huge stash of TYCO, Byggis, Qubo, Coko, Tandem, and of course MegaBloks. Stop living the lie, Tim! Admit your clonophilia and liberate (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) I agree. While personally, I frown on clone brands, I like the idea of developing libraries for non-LEGO based building systems like K'Nex and Hirstarts. I just browsed the Hirst site, and that stuff is wonderful! If I remember correctly, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
I just took a close look at (URL) and I must say, this looks *very* much like the Anchor Stones (with variations of the textures, of course)! Almost every stone on that page can be found in the Anker catalogs too - not the same, exact, dimensions, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
"Dwayne "Fallenhunter" Miller" <dmiller23@neo.rr.com> skrev i meddelandet news:H8Brs2.2M8@lugnet.com... (...) in its (...) life (...) practical. Yes, in this case you need something like LDRAW/MLCad, where parts can be 'pushed into' each other. (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) Actually, I just thought of some other leads. If you are looking for a general 3D modeler to create parts, you can find several awesome freeware ones at (URL) recommend that you check out anim8or and wings 3d - they both have excellent (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) <snip> (...) All of this is beyond a simple newbie like me to even comment on... its for the guys and gals who have been with this project for a long time. But I would forsee such things happening and for the better of the LDraw Legecy, James (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) telling my wife in earshot of my oldest son... he would not goto bed until I downloaded them and promised to set them up so he can play with the tommorrow. (...) Not sure what you mean by printed stone, chiseled stone is the most common block (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
<snip> (...) I found this program, a couple of hours after posting, seems too limited in its blocks availble for what we do, and as what we do is totally freeform, no pegs/holes to constrain us, overlapping a few blocks here and there (in life its (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
Hi all, I think Dwayne brings up a very interesting topic. Although I am more of an "outsider" to the CAD community (principally because my skills simply don't match the superior ones found here, at least for now); I have recently spent quite a bit (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
(...) Ryan Farrington has done exactly that: (URL)A further question, has someone come up with a program to help aid in design of (...) It depends on how you want to evoke the stone. If the blocks are smooth with printed stone, then you might be (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
"Dwayne "Fallenhunter" Miller" <dmiller23@neo.rr.com> skrev i meddelandet news:H8B20w.EEw@lugnet.com... (...) I (...) Se my announcement of version 3 of BlockCAD in .announce - I also announced a brother program for Anchor Stones (Ankersteine). (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Question about the Future of LDraw CAD family.
 
Greetings all, Now, I am asking if there are plans to support other building systems, and I dont just mean Mega Blocks or other generic Lego clones. I mean more like K-nex, and other such building systems? Ok, a more full explaination of why I am (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDraw.org 2002-06 Parts Update Now Available
 
Happy New Year! It's a few minutes after midnight, ldraw.org server time (ie, GMT). The final parts update for 2002 is now available. This is update 2002-06, a small package of just 54 files. It's become a tradition for me to put out an update just (...) (22 years ago, 31-Dec-02, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
 
  Re: New primitive box3-2.dat (was Re: What's up with box3#8.dat?)
 
(...) I have moved the box3#8p.dat currently on the Parts Tracker to box3u8p.dat and the new primitive is available to review at (URL) ~Moved to file will need special attention by Steve and I as it is not accessible through the review machanism, (...) (22 years ago, 30-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New primitive box3-2.dat (was Re: What's up with box3#8.dat?)
 
(...) I'll have patience. These dull and rainy holidays in the Netherlands are ideal to do some part authoring ;-) Yes I have families to consider, too. My grandparents celebrated their 84th and 85th birthdays. And I could borrow some old parts my (...) (22 years ago, 30-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New primitive box3-2.dat (was Re: What's up with box3#8.dat?)
 
Chris, I'm alright with the 'u' convention. It'd be wicked cool if someone sat down and figured out all the possible box configurations (there can't be *that* many of them), so we could have a clearer idea of what we're trying to describe. Then (...) (22 years ago, 30-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New primitive box3-2.dat (was Re: What's up with box3#8.dat?)
 
(...) Patience please - it's the holiday season and some of us have families to consider. I was hoping to get more replies to (URL) I explained the naming convention as currently implemented. So, if no-one is bothered, I'll change box3#8p.dat to (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New primitive box3-2.dat (was Re: What's up with box3#8.dat?)
 
Still no answer on the box primitive naming conventions. For my spoked wheels I needed a new primitive, like the box3#8.dat but with all adjecent edges. I named it box3-2.dat (Box, 3 faces drawn, 2 edges left out), but how should I name it so I can (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Restrictions on color use in parts and subparts
 
(...) There's already a fix for this posted to the PT, but yes colors above 16 should not be used for Quads, Triangles, or Lines only Type 1 lines (Subparts). (...) It's under the Parts Tracker Reference. Here's the link: (URL) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) : is not ok for MS-DOS! (It is used to after the drive name, like C: (...) Sound good to me Niels (22 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) There already is a 'p' suffix meaning parallel - the primitive is actually named box3#8p.dat. I found the original text from Manfred (dated 16Oct1998) copied here with minor spelling corrections - note that Manfred uses the word 'rib' for (...) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) Another suggestion is using the dash '-' and have an additional letter give some more information. a = adjacent p = parallel ... (more?) Niels (22 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Large LDraw/MPD Files?
 
(...) I meant basically what you just said. Ldglite doesn't create a new copy of the part each time it is used; LDView does. I do this for various reasons, but I believe that when I go back and revisit those reasons now with the advantage of (...) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New primitive: chord.dat (not the final name)
 
(...) Indeed. I was planning to do something similar myself. Hope it get's made official. (22 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) It would have been a nice character, but = is not allowed under MS-DOS The range of special characters possible with MS-DOS are: ! @ # $ % ^ & ( ) - _ { } : ' Which of these are HTLM friendly also ? With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen. (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) Yes - I think the original intent of # was 'in two parallel groups'. How about '='? That will work in a URL. It is almost like two '-'s. Chris (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) You R-ed C, Chris. Althought is't more correct to say that the missing edges are not *all* adjacent. But I'm a bit afraid that the dash and underscore charcters are to similar and could easely lead to confusion. Are there any other acceptable (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) Manfred Moolhuysen developed this naming convention and posted (probably to the old lcad list) in May 1998, but I cannot locate a copy right now. IIRC the # was intended to indicate that the missing edges were not adjacent (which is what the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) I'll think about box3-8 or something (box with 3 sides, missing 8 lines) I need a similar primitive with all edges along the three sides. That could be named box3-2 (box with 3 sides, missing 2 lines) Niels (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) Hm, it's possible that the search I used suffered from a similar problem to that of the URL. I stand corrected- thanks! -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
We should consider renaming this to get around this limitation. More programs and applets may start tring to access the files through URLS in the future. Who knows. -Kyle (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives
 
(...) Can we (Steve or I) have them for the Parts Tracker and ultimate release into the official library? Chris (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
(...) Not sure how you were searching, but this primitive is used by plenty of parts 2400.dat 2554.dat 2865.dat 2871.dat ..... The file is in the ldraw.org official library, but if you're trying to use the URL like (URL) then you will fail due to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  What's up with box3#8.dat? (was: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives)
 
I did a text search on all the dat files in my parts and subparts folder, and found that the "box3#8.dat" primitive isn't actually referenced by anything else. And if I try to download it from ldraw.org's official files link, I get nothing. Has this (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives
 
(...) Hi, I made all the remaining primitives BFC compliant with the help of one program that I created: (URL) I need to find some time to fix some bugs and release it to the community. Zanette. (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives
 
(...) All primitives really should be BFC'ed first... Strictly speaking you cannot certify a part unless all references are certified, but see (URL) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC parts with BFC-less primitives
 
(...) The primitives are slowly being made BFC compliant (and given meaningful headers) but if you have the time and inclination to do any of those that are not already done (or waiting on the Parts Tracker) please do so. Please email the fixed (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  BFC parts with BFC-less primitives
 
Hello, I have just found out all about BFC and how to make parts BFC compliant (yes, I know, I should have found that out earlier ;-). Most of the parts I submitted to the parts tracker are not reviewed, yet (not complainig about that), so I thought (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I would like to work on part 3648
 
"Chris Dee" <chris_w_dee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:H7Busx.Hu1@lugnet.com... (...) like (...) (one (...) the (...) to (...) me (...) LDraw (...) certainly (...) I'd (...) or (...) want (...) official (...) depending on (...) rework the (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New primitive: chord.dat (not the final name)
 
(...) I can see this having some use. I'd name it 1-4segm.dat. Chris (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: I would like to work on part 3648
 
(...) Actually, Lance, there is an updated version of 3648 already on the Parts Tracker (the system we use to review and certify unofficial parts) at (URL) I'm not sure this addresses the problems you identify and it is certainly not BFC compliant. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: HELP: transformation of primitive causes BFC to stop working
 
"Orion Pobursky" <bilthefish@IHATESPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:H7Bq38.4Lx@lugnet.com... (...) instead (...) of (...) Hey, I'm all for a good cheat if it makes things easier. Now why didn't I think of that? I guess I keep thinking MLCad is (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: HELP: transformation of primitive causes BFC to stop working
 
(...) Actually, I cheated. I hate doing the math and still don't understand the matrix tranforms well enough to look at a matrix and know what it's doing, so I use MLCad to rotate things for me. -Orion (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: HELP: transformation of primitive causes BFC to stop working
 
Yep, that did the trick. Now that you gave me the coordinates, I can see that I wanted the original y vector (0,1,0) to go to -z (0, 0, -1), instead of staying y like I had it. This rotating and scaling stuff can be kind of tricky to visualize, (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: HELP: transformation of primitive causes BFC to stop working  [DAT]
 
(...) I think this line is what you want: 1 16 10 10 2 0 0 8 -8 0 0 0 -1 0 2-4ndis.dat Let me know if I'm right. -Orion (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  HELP: transformation of primitive causes BFC to stop working  [DAT]
 
In playing with making a part (3648) BFC certified I have ran into a problem. The following line is in the original file: 1 16 10 10 2 0 0 8 8 0 0 0 1 0 2-4ndis.dat This line transforms the primitive such that the front face is inside the part (I'm (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  I would like to work on part 3648
 
I have been playing around with LDraw, and I have decided that I would like to make an attempt to fix the Technic Gear 24 Tooth part. I noticed that there are several polygons near the axle hole that are "out-of-bounds" (one vertex from several (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Decorated DATs
 
(...) See lugnet.cad.dev for more information on this. There are a lot of mechanisms for creating patterned parts. I myself have used Quad2Dat successfully. Assuming you have a good quality high resolution scan of the part and it's a flat surface (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-02, to lugnet.build, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New primitive: chord.dat (not the final name)  [DAT]
 
Here's something I whipped up that I find extremely useful for patterned parts in particular. When trying to put something inside a circle (or anywhere near a curved section), this lets you avoid 2 problems: 1: having to calculate the awkward (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: How do I write a header file for an updated part...
 
(...) Good idea. I'll do that before I send the parts in. (...) Hm, you think the 1x4 brick is common enough? Methinks the answer is yes- I'll separate the unfaced portion. I'm also submitting a BFC'd box4t because I used that for the brick's body. (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question/problem with some flag parts
 
(...) I'm pretty sure there is not a 6 x 3 1/3 flag, and seeing as the original author titled it "6 x 4" I suspect this was just an error in authoring (and review !). I'll liaise with the author to arrange a fix. Chris (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: How do I write a header file for an updated part...
 
(...) I've not discussed with Steve, but I'd go for option 2 - write a new header but credit the previous author in a subsidiary comment. If the existing author is still active, it would be polite to let them know what you're doing. Please re-use (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  How do I write a header file for an updated part...
 
...when the new version is redone from scratch? In the past, I've done some minor reworking of files. In these cases, I simply added the date, my name, and a description of what I'd done to the file. But what about when I fire up Notepad and start (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question/problem with some flag parts
 
You're right. The 43.dat isn't a 6 x 4 flag. But I can't tell you if there exists a real 6 x 3 1/3 one. The "Jolly Roger" one is named correct. Does anybody want to fix this? CU Bernd Jaco van der Molen <jmolen@globalxs.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: question/problem with some flag parts
 
Hmm... The flag 6 x 4 (#43) is actually 6 x 3 1/3. Flag 6 x 4 (#43P01) is 6 x 4. Strange. I do not own any of these two parts, but I think part 43 is either mesured wrong or the description is wrong. Or part 43P01 is wrong... Jaco "Jonathan Wilson" (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  question/problem with some flag parts
 
Can someone explain why the "flag 6 x 4" and the "flat 6 x 4 with jolly roger pattern" are different sizes? Is this an error? (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why should parts not have vertices lying along edges?
 
(...) I wouldn't ignore it lightly as it can have many adverse effects. You get little holes from from the roundoff errors. You can also see it in lighting problems with more advanced renderers such as ldview and POV. Here's an old example of the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Why should parts not have vertices lying along edges?
 
(...) My opinion is that this isn't a significant enough problem to worry about. Further more, I consider this is a renderer limitation and not a problem with the part itself. Therefore, feel free to ignore this if it suits your purposes. -Orion (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Why should parts not have vertices lying along edges?
 
For this discussion, I'm using the term "polygon" to refer to quads or triangles. When I say "primitive", I'm talking about more complex primitives such as discs and non-discs. And when I refer to "edges", I'm talking about line segments between a (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Numbers Report - 5 Dec. 2002
 
Section Totals 028 certified files. 184 files need admin review. 193 files need more votes. 244 have uncertified subfiles. 136 held files. 785 files total. For comparison: 2002-12-05 - 028 / 184 / 193 / 244 / 136 (785) 2002-10-21 - 159 / 153 / 221 / (...) (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
Niels, I'm not sure what to do about arrows that are hidden because the view angle hides it. Do you have any ideas? It seems to me that it is just like any other part that is hidden from view. You can't see it. Do you have ideas how to work around (...) (22 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
Thanks Jeroen, I guess there are multiple issues here. My original thoughts were primarily restricted to my LPub centric perspective, where we create step by step building instructions with a fixed view angle, and use rotation steps to virtually (...) (22 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
Hmm, you could use the IFPOV and ENDPOV statements: 0 IFPOV 0 text { ttf "arial.ttf" // check your fonts directory for the proper names 0 "place your text here" // well, place your text there 0 1, // thickness of text (text will be 3D, dunno what (...) (22 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
(...) MLCAD indeed has a BACKGROUND meta commmand that places an image as a background. This image always faces the "camera", indepedently of the view angle. It will not work in al instances (it might get obscured by the model), but it is the only (...) (22 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
It is not only about adding text to a 3D world or a 2D render of it, but also about arrows. Arrows are (can be) used to point to a specific part or a group of parts. What about when this (these) part(s) are not visible in a different camera (...) (22 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 24-tooth Technic gear confusion - Part(s) 3648, 3648a, x187
 
Thanks all. For now, I guess I will use just 3648 and indicate the appropriate version in the notes column. Hmm...maybe I need to add "learn how to create LDraw parts" to my ever-growing LEGO ToDo List (although I somehow suspect that 3648 might not (...) (22 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.inv)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
I was assuming that the user knows the view angle as well as any MLCad rotation steps that are in place when laying out the building instructions, but maybe this is too much work. If I do it as a post processing step, then the user is going to have (...) (22 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
(...) Not necessarily. I don't always use the default viewpoint when rendering. (22 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: True Type fonts and LDraw files
 
(...) As far as I know, you can't do that, but I suppose you could do it with a new META statement. (...) I think there might be some LDRAW programs out there with a notion of a floor or background image. Those are 2D objects that may or may not (...) (22 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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