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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 02:05:00 GMT, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K)
wrote:
> Everyone,
>
> We are facing a major problem in numbering parts in LDraw. For quite some time
> I have been trying to follow a 3 rule plan for numbering pieces:
> 1. Full accuracy when possible
> 2. Use official TLG numbers if we have them
> 3. Use temporary 3-digit numbers for unkowns.
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> Sounds simple, right?
>
> The problem is, that some elements would force us to use numbers in seemingly
> un-intuitive ways. An example:
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> The yellow dinghy in the vote is numbered 30086. That is the imprinted number
> for the lower portion only. The top is 30087. The aggregate number for both
> is 4106548. But that number is _only_ for the yellow version.
> Any other color (like tan) would be different.
>
> So what to do?
> Keep the imprinted number on the bottom as THE number?
> Use the 4106548 as THE number for all versions?
> Use the 4106548 for the yellow version, and add a tan one later?
> Give up and give it a 3-digit number and ignore all other numbers?
In this case, I say use the number stamped on the part.
> Some more problems from the current vote: (from Joshua Delahunty)
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> 81155 is always black, with a yellow pattern
Did we decide to move away from the xxxxPxx format? This sounds like a
good reason to rethink that decision. Not that I expect this particular
element to ever resurface in a non-black form, but other patterned
elements could and do.
> 30208 doesn't (shouldn't?) have the number 30208 with this year's
> introduction of a gold version.
Huh? Why not? Because the gold version has a 7xxxx number? So what,
stick with the 30208 number.
> So, you can see we are faced with many problems.
> Using a strictly enforced accuracy rule will force us to have multiple versions
> of the same part, in different colors.
Using hard-coded colors is always a bad decision (except when there are
multiple colors involved, so only one color gets to be redefinable).
Having multiple files for the same part is a bad solution.
In the case of decorated elements, I am not opposed to using one of the
color-specific numbers as *the* LDraw number. That is a better solution
than using a 3-digit number.
Steve
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