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Re: Cats and pigeons...
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Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:51:26 GMT
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lpieniazek@novera.!saynotospam!com
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Sproaticus wrote:
>
> Todd Lehman wrote:
> > In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > I'm not following you at this point. Were you seriously contemplating
> > > shutting down all of LUGNET because someone posted a URL to some images
> > > on the lego.com site? Images that are out in public view? Images
> > > therefore covered under the fairplay policy?
> > I'm looking for a solution (even an imperfect one) to an extremely complex
> > problem which I'm afraid doesn't exist (the solution, that is).
>
> The first thing you can do, instead of bouncing the server, is to bump off the
> folks who *flagrantly* flout your request to not post sensitive TLC info.
> Specifically, *this* info. Personally, I'd yank Remy's posting privs
> immediately.
>
> I'm not talking about stifling free speech here, just some basic CYA. If
> someone wants to disseminate Lego trade secrets, they can use someone else's
> server.
I'm missing something here. Retailer catalogs are one thing. They're
pretty clearly not for general consumption. But why exactly are the
images in question trade secrets? They are posted on a public server by
TLG with no protection whatever.
Read my post about IP law:
http://www.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=3467
If it's on a server on the internet, and it's not protected in any way,
it's fair game. I think we're getting spun up unnecessarily at this
point.
Using this line of logic, you could say that posting how to defeat the
cookie that makes you log in every time you go to the webclub:
http://www.lugnet.com/general/?n=11020
is wrong. After all, TLG *intends* you to have to log in each time, no?
C'mon people, let's not go off the deep end paranoia wise. Yank Remy's
posting privileges? Please, way overreacting...
Is there anyone here who doubts my extremely strong pro property rights
stance in general?
--
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| (...) goes along the same lines as, "we are physically free to walk out the 7-11 door with an unpaid-for pack of gum, so we should be allowed to". But the thing is, is that we as TLC's customers have an unwritten contract with TLC to act (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) not I... I can't believe this conversation is even taking place... let me get this straight.. images are hosted on an open server... someone comes along and finds them by mod'ing the location line of a published, linked image (no doubt (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) The first thing you can do, instead of bouncing the server, is to bump off the folks who *flagrantly* flout your request to not post sensitive TLC info. Specifically, *this* info. Personally, I'd yank Remy's posting privs immediately. I'm not (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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