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Re: Another Legend dies... ...changes to "new" metroliner suggested.
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:18:12 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> Dear all!
>
> I'm really glad with most of the latest news we have heared from TLC. Bulk
> order becomes better and better, (in Germany you can buy at S@H even without
> credit card!), the "My Own Trains" and the new waggons are nice as models and
> especially for delivering spares. The Sopwith Camel is one of the greatest sets
> ever in my eyes and Harry Potter isn't as bad as many people think about
> it, since it offers lots of play fun (for kids) and lots of nice detailed sets
> for not too
> much money. Only the Hogwarts Express is a very lame modell in my opinion.
>
> But now we have the Legend series and I'm not glad about it at all. There have
> been some worth to read discussions (mainly Europeans against Americans) about
> the Guarded Inn and at this point we have the same effects concerning the
> trains. I think Jojo has said nearly all about what makes a set a legend and
> why a re-released legend is a dead legend:
> http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=9395
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> As a matter of fact I have to declare: Lego® ist not only a toy, but also a
> collectors item. Many people collect sets (and pay lots of money for it).
> Others just need the parts for playing. Most of us do both: collect things and
> play with the stuff. I think TLC should take care of both groups: the "players"
> want to have stuff for MOCs easily available, the "collectors" want to have
> rare sets.
>
> The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
> changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new printings.)
> The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
> mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
> be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
> Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.
I have no problem with the "slight" changes you suggest. But those will
result in extra (slight?) development costs, and so may make other Legend
sets a little less likely. I cannot find a picture of the "new" metroliner
on Lego.com, but the changes I hope for a as follows:
No Transformer/PS - I have enough
No Track - I have enough
No motor - I have enough
Smaller box!
With those changes, we may save 30-40%?
Scott A
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> I would buy such a set immediately (imagine how much new cool MOCs you could
> make up with dark gray bricks!). But I see nothing good in a simple 100% copy
> of 4558: grey windows are available at S@H anyway and nearly all people around
> have a Metroliner now, so we do not need more copies of this set, which is
> weekly sold 10 times via eBay.
>
> And my last point (not too unimportant!): if the AFOL-market gets the
> Metroliner now, this decreases evidently the chance to get a new well designed
> train set (with new parts and new part-colour-combinations). Instead, the next
> train set to follow the 4565 will probably be juniorized even worse than 4560.
>
> If you ask me, TLC would have done a bigger favour to us AFOLs if they had
> released a new set maybe somewhat similar to 4564, but with cool new colours
> like dark gray, tan, brown etc. I want to see a set with big train wheels
> (including the possibility to add connecting rods) and with dark gray (or red)
> wheel blocks, with dark gray magnet couplings etc. THAT would have been worth a
> "Woow!!"
>
> If the legends become a success this will just mean more 4560-like sets on the
> one hand and more re-releases (I think 4551 and 4536 will be next. Yes, 4551 is
> a cool set, but a green or brown 4551 with gray wheel blocks would be a
> fantastic set!)
>
> The new 1000x series just kills legends and is not helpful for me at
> all, since I get just "boring" stuff I have right now.... (I'm both collector
> and builder).
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ben
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