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Re: Another Legend dies....
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Date: 
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:48:56 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:

But now we have the Legend series and I'm not glad about it at all. There have
been some worth to read discussions (mainly Europeans against Americans) about
the Guarded Inn and at this point we have the same effects concerning the
trains. I think Jojo has said nearly all about what makes a set a legend and
why a re-released legend is a dead legend:
http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=9395

Just reread that thread and the takeaway I got is that most people here in
the US anyway don't have a lot of sympathy for what apparently was the
majority view on 1000steine...

As a matter of fact I have to declare: Lego® ist not only a toy, but also a
collectors item. Many people collect sets (and pay lots of money for it).
Others just need the parts for playing. Most of us do both: collect things and
play with the stuff. I think TLC should take care of both groups: the "players"
want to have stuff for MOCs easily available, the "collectors" want to have
rare sets.

The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new printings.)
The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.

There have been slight changes! 10000 uses different parts molds (new style
minifig torsos, 2 clip saddle, etc.) and the parts count on 10001 is going
to be different by 2! This should make the truly "anorak"y collector quite
happy. Unfortunately the changes are small enough that we have already seen
what appears to be someone trying to pass off a 10000 as an original set.

And my last point (not too unimportant!): if the AFOL-market gets the
Metroliner now, this decreases evidently the chance to get a new well designed
train set (with new parts and new part-colour-combinations). Instead, the next
train set to follow the 4565 will probably be juniorized even worse than 4560.

Um, are you saying that the 5 new cars just introduced by LD aren't a vast
step forward? They're not as good as what you or I can design (of course,
we're not constrained the same way) but they're way better than 2126.

Sure, more new sets would be better but LD doesn't have that much power yet.
Give it time. LD is changing the way things are done at TLC and what may
seem like a glacial pace to me and Hopfrog and others is really rocket speed
compared to how things get done inside the rest of TLC. I hope it speeds up
more, of course, don't get me wrong.



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  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) Of course there are all opinions to be found at 1000steine, but the majority is of the opinion, that the Lego® hunting is such a big part of the hobby and they would not like to miss it. Buying something with your credit card gives you not the (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) I agree. In fact, the smaller the difference the more joy the anoraks will have. Other collecting fields suffer from re-runs, I do not see why Lego should be any different. Perhaps the anoraks should start collecting lines which may never be (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)

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  Another Legend dies....
 
Dear all! I'm really glad with most of the latest news we have heared from TLC. Bulk order becomes better and better, (in Germany you can buy at S@H even without credit card!), the "My Own Trains" and the new waggons are nice as models and (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains) !! 

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