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Re: Another Legend dies....
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Date: 
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:30:13 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:

But now we have the Legend series and I'm not glad about it at all.
...why a re-released legend is a dead legend:
http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=9395

Just reread that thread and the takeaway I got is that most people here in
the US anyway don't have a lot of sympathy for what apparently was the
majority view on 1000steine...


Of course there are all opinions to be found at 1000steine, but the majority is
of the opinion, that the Lego® hunting is such a big part of the hobby and they
would not like to miss it. Buying something with your credit card gives you not
the same satisfaction as finding a rare part on a flea market and trading the
next one with some other AFOL. All tose FOTM stories which we all have had are
such an important part of our hobby: I wouldn't like to miss them.

The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new • printings.)
The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.

There have been slight changes!

You are right, and this is a thing I really appreciate, but as far as I read
it, lots of people are not too glad about these differences (May I call them
the "jealous people": those who would like to get the "like original" sets
cheap, which we idiots have bought at highest prices?).

10000 uses different parts molds (new style
minifig torsos, 2 clip saddle, etc.) and the parts count on 10001 is going
to be different by 2! This should make the truly "anorak"y collector quite
happy.

I agree. And the building instruction is different also. Still I would like to
see some "real" changes and I do not see the harm for the "players".

Unfortunately the changes are small enough that we have already seen
what appears to be someone trying to pass off a 10000 as an original set.

:-((

And my last point (not too unimportant!): if the AFOL-market gets the
Metroliner now, this decreases evidently the chance to get a new well • designed
train set (with new parts and new part-colour-combinations). Instead, the • next
train set to follow the 4565 will probably be juniorized even worse than • 4560.

Um, are you saying that the 5 new cars just introduced by LD aren't a vast
step forward?

No, I'm not talking about these S@H waggons, but I see black for the future of
TLC trains (the stuff you buy at your local toy store, at least here in
Germany). S@H is great and in general I'm really satisfied, how things
proceeded during the last month.

Sure, more new sets would be better but LD doesn't have that much power yet.
Give it time. LD is changing the way things are done at TLC and what may
seem like a glacial pace to me and Hopfrog and others is really rocket speed
compared to how things get done inside the rest of TLC. I hope it speeds up
more, of course, don't get me wrong.

No, of course not. And I know, most readers of lugnet.trains will not agree
with my opinion. Despite of this I felt the need to give you my opinion on the
Lego® Legends.

Leg Godt!

Ben



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
One thing Brad Justus said on Saturday was that LUGNET estimates of how many Guarded Inns were being ordered were "way off" -- the point was that many, many times more are being bought by parents of kids. Sales "went through the roof" when the S@H (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) I don't like flea markets, and I don't like used stuff if I can avoid it. I have no sympathy with the view that the fun is in the "shopping" for the elements or sets -- I hate shopping! My preference would be for TLC NOT to rerelease sets but (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)  

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  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) the US anyway don't have a lot of sympathy for what apparently was the majority view on 1000steine... (...) There have been slight changes! 10000 uses different parts molds (new style minifig torsos, 2 clip saddle, etc.) and the parts count on (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)

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