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Re: Connect Four game issues
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Tue, 16 Sep 2003 04:08:27 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno wrote:
> as have I. and I HAVE seen it fail. why do you think I have to install error checking to
> make sure I GOT a message.
'Cause you're not doing it right? I've never used any kind of protocol or error
checking and I've used this in all of my multi RCX robots (and no comments about
the last one...messaging was not the problem)
> I've done some searching as well. turns out Derek was right. this game is a proven first
> player wins game.
True, but, I read that the guy had an opening book of 60,000 moves requiring
approx 1mb. Guess what nobody's going to be able to implement.
> end result is that whoever can hire the best coder wins. And since bruce and Calum have
> access to a STAFF of coders i'd say this game will come down to which team is better:
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> Team Bell Fleet vs RBC Financial-Four
This from the greatest programming mind amongst us..."It is a very clever
strategy IMHO, and I applaud Chris for thinking of it."
Does anyone have a guess as to how long it will take to make 1 move (scan,
decision logic, x/y move and drop, signal completion).
My guess is that we'd be luck to perform all that in 30-45 seconds (which
implies very little logic and probably only analyzing the current state of the
board).
If we say 30 seconds x 30 moves (both of which seem optimistic) thats a 15
minute game. Somebody wake-me up when its over.
Bruce
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| (...) Put the RCXs in "standard" locations and cover them with a box. (...) But what if we only scan for new pieces? Our bot should be smart enough to know what the board looked like on the last move, so it should be trivial to find the ONE piece (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
| | | Re: Connect Four game issues
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| (...) [butting in] By my calculations there are 261,827 distinct states the board can be at by the 8th move (184,868 board combos for turn 8 itself). I don't have numbers for further states, cuz, well, it was taking too long for my program to (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| (...) cant.... stop..... must.... not..... hit reply.... button...... (...) wow bruce, keep it up. I'll have enough sig files to last for years. but seriously, you know as well as I do that very few of us have the ability to build and code this. I (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| (...) as have I. and I HAVE seen it fail. why do you think I have to install error checking to make sure I GOT a message. (...) agreed (...) i'm saying use up one of your "spare" rcx or even something as lowly as a scout, and send it your IR, and it (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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