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Re: Connect Four game issues
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Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:43:45 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Derek Raycraft wrote:
> > I just had another thought - when we did Project X, we had scoring that included
> > time, as well as accuracy being factors in determining who won. Does anyone
> > think that adding the time element to this might be benefecial? Or might that
> > get too complicated?
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> > My thought was this - if we just score on who wins the Connect 4 game, the focus
> > is more on the software. Project X focused on software and hardware, because
> > the software had to be clever, and the machine had to be fast.
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> This is my problem with this game as discussed so far. There is a
> minimum mechanical requirement to participate, but no advantage to going
> beyond this.
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> If your robot can drop the chips into the slots, and read the board
> you're set. It's all down to coding from there.
Well, technically I think this is a mechanically more difficult game than
Project X (which I did with 1 RCX). the XY gantry system for Project X comes
into play for the XY gantry for Project 4, but vertical movement of a gantry
system is inherently more difficult (gravity--sucks that) and then, on top of
which, you have to put the non-LEGO chips in the columns, interfacing your 'bot
with a non-LEGO board. Yeah, this is a much more mechanically interesting
problem.
> There is no incentive for innovative design in the actual robot. Which
> seems counter to the reasons we put on these games.
I disagree--look at the varitey of different types of robots for Project X and
the different methods for moving/placing. There were many ganty entries, but
all were different from one another.
> So this game really becomes a computer science challenge and not a
> robotics challenge
Is both--program a 'bot to read and then evaluate the next move. I'm cringing
about the lack of variables in NQC as well as the memory limitation already.
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<snip>
> Derek
Dave K
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