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Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
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Date: 
Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:59:46 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > And don't get me started on the marriage thing.  Marriage is NOT a
> > > right.  It's a construct invented by organized religion and supported
> > > by the government, ostensibly to provide some stability for children
> > > in order to safeguard our future.  Demonstrate an equivalent benefit
> > > to society when it's extended to gay couples.  Maybe someday, when
> > > biotech obliterates the difference between male and female...
> > 
> > I agree in the sense the government recognized marriage is useless.  Marriage in
> > the sense of 2 people deciding to spend the rest of their lives together and
> > possibly raise offspring is fine.
> 
> With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the
> argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any
> more, in my view.

I agree. Orion is almost implying that infertile individuals should not marry.
;)

> 
> Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why limit marriage to
> just 2 partners?

You've not met my wife. ;)

Scott A

> 
> Marriage, in the sense of it being a contract among people, strikes me as a
> right. But then I see the ability for people of sound mind to enter into free
> associations (or not enter, as they choose) to be a right, and any restriction
> of the right to form contracts by the state as an infringement.



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  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any more, in my view. Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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