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Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
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Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:59:46 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
<snip>
And don't get me started on the marriage thing.  Marriage is NOT a
right.  It's a construct invented by organized religion and supported
by the government, ostensibly to provide some stability for children
in order to safeguard our future.  Demonstrate an equivalent benefit
to society when it's extended to gay couples.  Maybe someday, when
biotech obliterates the difference between male and female...

I agree in the sense the government recognized marriage is useless.  Marriage in
the sense of 2 people deciding to spend the rest of their lives together and
possibly raise offspring is fine.

With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the
argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any
more, in my view.

I agree. Orion is almost implying that infertile individuals should not marry.
;)


Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why limit marriage to
just 2 partners?

You've not met my wife. ;)

Scott A


Marriage, in the sense of it being a contract among people, strikes me as a
right. But then I see the ability for people of sound mind to enter into free
associations (or not enter, as they choose) to be a right, and any restriction
of the right to form contracts by the state as an infringement.



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  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any more, in my view. Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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