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Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
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Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:54:05 GMT
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Hi all, it's been a while!

The subject of this post seems curious to me.  Canada is a great place...why?
Dave, are you reacting to the court's decision or to this journalist's gushing?
The way I see it, the writing in that piece was sub par in that it was heavy
handed and presumptuous.  And the court's decision was completely unremarkable.
They were strictly uncontroversial in affirming  children as chattel to be
treated with any degree of disrespect short of injury.

So you're happy that violence against children, in this day and age, is
governmentally supported?  When we know that it is, at best, an effective tool
for ultra-short-term motivation?  When we know that violence against children
harms those people into their adulthood and thus the whole of society?

It's interesting to see how differently we see the world.

And for the record, it's legal for women in the US to go topless anywhere that
it's legal for men.  There are laws in many localles that would make exercising
the right to toplessnes a serious hassle, but that doesn't make it illegal.
When it's said and done, the SC of almost every US state would follow in the
steps of those few who have already done so and affirm the right of women to be
topless.

And further, it has become commonplace across the US for either: local statute
to provide for token penalties, or a policy of non-enforcement.  Obviously, it
varries from place to place, but these reasonable attitudes toward marijuana are
(finally!) becoming enshrined in local law and enforcement policy.

I'm not trying to assert one of those dumb US v. Canada (or anywhere) arguments,
just clearing stuff up.  I'd be the first to agree that we have a ways to go on
gay marriage.  But we're getting there...I know a lot of people who are fairly
moderate in their political outlook who agree that marriage should not be a
public policy matter at all.  And we're certainly at the bottom of the civilized
world with regard to affording appropriate rights to minors...joined recently by
Canada!

Chris

P.S. As usual, I disagree with everything John Neal asserts, openly or through
implication on this subject.



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  Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
 
(...) What makes the court decision remarkable is that they actually made a decision that's rational, instead of politically expedient. You may have found the writing sub-par, but then you may not know the actual author of the article, Rachel Sa. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
 
(...) Careful there, Chris... he's been seen going around asserting that the sun rises in the east again. (...) er, oops. Nevermind. :-) Now, a bit more on track, we're not much on hitting our kids, and we didn't, much, especially now that both of (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
 
(URL) within 'common sense' reasons, is legal, according to the Supreme Court of Canada. You can't use a shoe aor a belt, you can't hit the kid in the head, can't spank if they're under the age of 2... THey actually laid out pretty specific (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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