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Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:52:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
> P.S. As usual, I disagree with everything John Neal asserts, openly or through
> implication
Careful there, Chris... he's been seen going around asserting that the sun rises
in the east again.
> on this subject.
er, oops. Nevermind.
:-)
Now, a bit more on track, we're not much on hitting our kids, and we didn't,
much, especially now that both of them are in double digits, it's no longer
appropriate at all, but I'm not totally following why *all* corporal punishment,
in any form whatever, is bad.
We have horses. Is it ok to smack one on the rump to get it to move sideways
when it's in crossties and another horse needs to get by and it's hogging the
aisleway by standing diagonally?
That's a way of getting its attention. The smack leaves no lasting mark, and it
does affect the move.
We have cats. Is it ok to squirt one with a water bottle when it sharpens its
claws on our leather sofa instead of the scratching post after it has been
repeatedly admonished not to do that?
That's a way of getting its attention. The squirt leaves no lasting mark, and it
does affect the change in behaviour.
So if my child, say age 5, is screaming and throwing a tantrum in a public place
for no good reason and it's not feasible to remove him from the situation but
the screaming HAS to stop (stipulate that for the sake of the argument) is a
slap or a splash of water not an acceptable way of getting attention to the
point where the message to discontinue the bad behaviour will be received?
Horses and cats are chattel. Children are not. But they are, nevertheless, our
wards. Disallowing ALL corporal punishment seems to take a communication device
away from parents.
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) You can't reason with a horse. (...) You can't reason with a cat. (...) You can reason with a child. Parenthood can be very difficult. However, I can't see how resorting to violence will give a parent anything other than short-term gain and (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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| (...) There are two basic thrusts that I'll take with this. First, and what I expect to me more convincing/interesting to the "pro-spank" or "parents' rights" crowd, is that it produces long-term deleterious motivational effects. It seems that (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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