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Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:16:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
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P.S. As usual, I disagree with everything John Neal asserts, openly or
through implication
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Careful there, Chris... he’s been seen going around asserting that the sun
rises in the east again.
er, oops. Nevermind.
:-)
Now, a bit more on track, we’re not much on hitting our kids, and we didn’t,
much, especially now that both of them are in double digits, it’s no longer
appropriate at all, but I’m not totally following why *all* corporal
punishment, in any form whatever, is bad.
We have horses. Is it ok to smack one on the rump to get it to move sideways
when it’s in crossties and another horse needs to get by and it’s hogging the
aisleway by standing diagonally?
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You can’t reason with a horse.
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That’s a way of getting its attention. The smack leaves no lasting mark, and
it does affect the move.
We have cats. Is it ok to squirt one with a water bottle when it sharpens its
claws on our leather sofa instead of the scratching post after it has been
repeatedly admonished not to do that?
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You can’t reason with a cat.
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That’s a way of getting its attention. The squirt leaves no lasting mark, and
it does affect the change in behaviour.
So if my child, say age 5,
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You can reason with a child.
Parenthood can be very difficult. However, I can’t see how resorting to violence
will give a parent anything other than short-term gain and long-term guilt.
Generally, violence is very seldom the answer to any problem.
Scott A (who made the mistake of putting “spanking” into a search engine)
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is screaming and throwing a tantrum in a public place
for no good reason and it’s not feasible to remove him from the situation but
the screaming HAS to stop (stipulate that for the sake of the argument) is a
slap or a splash of water not an acceptable way of getting attention to the
point where the message to discontinue the bad behaviour will be received?
Horses and cats are chattel. Children are not. But they are, nevertheless, our
wards. Disallowing ALL corporal punishment seems to take a communication
device away from parents.
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| (...) You can, however, teach a horse. (...) You can, however, teach a cat (...) A 5 year old, as Larry mentioned, throwing a tantrum, as far as my personal experience goes, is pretty much unreasonable, and will either stop the tantrum when a) (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Careful there, Chris... he's been seen going around asserting that the sun rises in the east again. (...) er, oops. Nevermind. :-) Now, a bit more on track, we're not much on hitting our kids, and we didn't, much, especially now that both of (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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