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Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard
> to make the argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a
> meaningful argument any more, in my view.
> Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why limit
> marriage to just 2 partners?
> Marriage, in the sense of it being a contract among people, strikes me
> as a right. But then I see the ability for people of sound mind to enter
> into free associations (or not enter, as they choose) to be a right, and
> any restriction of the right to form contracts by the state as an
> infringement.
I read your post after I posted my reply to Orion, but I think we're
almost on the same page here. I guess the difference is that I see
the ongoing hacks to the marriage laws as doing more harm than good.
However, we are rapidly approaching the point where a complete overhaul
is probably gonna be needed. I just don't think we're there yet.
Don
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| (...) My contention I that we should do away with marriage laws all together. Government has no business dictating what does or does not constitute a marriage. This dicision is up to the individuals concerned and the life choice they decide to make. (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) OK. I think you're right... hacking isn't the right approach for the "final answer". however, as a hacker myself, there's value in hacking. If a few states go through various permutations on this (Ohio, I hear is about to do a very restrictive (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any more, in my view. Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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