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Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:12:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
> Dave, I'm thinking that you are nit-picking by way of purposely failing to read
> between the lines. If I'm wrong, then I must have communicated rather poorly.
> If you take a minute to evaluate my notes and your response, and then think that
> your inquiry is completely reasonable, I'll address your points.
Hey, don't get all reasonable on me now!
I can cut through my verbosity and sum it up this way:
1. I dispute the assertion that verbal instruction is generally sufficient to
steer a recalcitrant child away from ultimately self-damaging behavior
2. I dispute the assertion that physical intervention in a child's behavior is
never justified.
3. I submit that your construction of the parent/child debt structure is at its
essence arbitrary and designed to yield maximum payoff (i.e., zero debt) for the
child and maximum debt (i.e., zero payoff) for the parent.
Each of these points is supported to varying degrees by the examples provided in
my previous post. I grant that some of the examples were extreme, but not so
extreme as to be irrelevant to real-world situations.
I didn't intend to be nit-picky, nor do I think your post was poorly worded.
Let's just split the difference and blame DaveK's breasts. He's a Canadian,
anyway.
Welcome back to .debate, by the way.
Dave!
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| (...) sufficient to (...) behavior is (...) I don't think Chris has ever said that. Now I may be shortcutting Chris's recent posts, but I know in the past that Chris has said that if a kid was about to run in front of a car, he would grab the kid. (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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| (...) Agreed. Once the child has become recalcitrant, simple, calm reason is often a waste. I like to look at the child's recalcitrance the same way I look at crime, though, and try to prevent it rather than merely responding. A healthy dose of Good (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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| What follows is not my best writing... I used a lot of that up today working on deliverables for my client and for BrickFest PDX. But it's a great topic and I wanted to take one more swing before I went to bed... (...) I know Chris didn't completely (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada!
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| Dave, I'm thinking that you are nit-picking by way of purposely failing to read between the lines. If I'm wrong, then I must have communicated rather poorly. If you take a minute to evaluate my notes and your response, and then think that your (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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