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Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
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Date: 
Thu, 5 Feb 2004 04:17:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
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And don't get me started on the marriage thing.  Marriage is NOT a
right.  It's a construct invented by organized religion and supported
by the government, ostensibly to provide some stability for children
in order to safeguard our future.  Demonstrate an equivalent benefit
to society when it's extended to gay couples.  Maybe someday, when
biotech obliterates the difference between male and female...

I agree in the sense the government recognized marriage is useless.  Marriage in
the sense of 2 people deciding to spend the rest of their lives together and
possibly raise offspring is fine.

With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the
argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any
more, in my view.

Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why limit marriage to
just 2 partners?

Marriage, in the sense of it being a contract among people, strikes me as a
right. But then I see the ability for people of sound mind to enter into free
associations (or not enter, as they choose) to be a right, and any restriction
of the right to form contracts by the state as an infringement.



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  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) I agree. Orion is almost implying that infertile individuals should not marry. ;) (...) You've not met my wife. ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) I read your post after I posted my reply to Orion, but I think we're almost on the same page here. I guess the difference is that I see the ongoing hacks to the marriage laws as doing more harm than good. However, we are rapidly approaching (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) I agree in the sense the government recognized marriage is useless. Marriage in the sense of 2 people deciding to spend the rest of their lives together and possibly raise offspring is fine. -Orion (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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