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Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> > <snip>
> > And don't get me started on the marriage thing. Marriage is NOT a
> > right. It's a construct invented by organized religion and supported
> > by the government, ostensibly to provide some stability for children
> > in order to safeguard our future. Demonstrate an equivalent benefit
> > to society when it's extended to gay couples. Maybe someday, when
> > biotech obliterates the difference between male and female...
>
> I agree in the sense the government recognized marriage is useless. Marriage in
> the sense of 2 people deciding to spend the rest of their lives together and
> possibly raise offspring is fine.
With adoption, artificial insemination, host mothers, etc, it's hard to make the
argument that "gay marriages can't produce progeny" a meaningful argument any
more, in my view.
Where I think we still have work to do is on the number... why limit marriage to
just 2 partners?
Marriage, in the sense of it being a contract among people, strikes me as a
right. But then I see the ability for people of sound mind to enter into free
associations (or not enter, as they choose) to be a right, and any restriction
of the right to form contracts by the state as an infringement.
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| (...) I read your post after I posted my reply to Orion, but I think we're almost on the same page here. I guess the difference is that I see the ongoing hacks to the marriage laws as doing more harm than good. However, we are rapidly approaching (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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