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Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
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Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:43:40 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:

But who's "sensibilities" are we catering to?  Does this mean that if
one guy in the mall that I frequent thinks my girlfriend should wear a
full length dress instead of slacks then she should and if she doesn't
then she's "uncivilized" and "narcissistic"?  The argument nakedness
is wrong in that most people feel that covering up is the "right" thing
to do is fundmentally flawed.

We're catering to the sensibilities of the local culture and the laws
they enact.  If enough people in one society decide public sex acts
should be illegal then they should be free to create laws to that effect.
If you can convince enough people that public sex is wonderful, then
you should be able to get the law changed.  Until then, either obey it
or pay the consequences.  Or move to Canada ;^)

What if I convince enough people that slavery is wonderful?  Should we encat a
law authorizing slavery?  Or, a little less extreme than the above example, what
if I convince enough people that men wearing skirts is wonderful?  The point I'm
trying to make is that the majority is not always right.  In fact, I'd go so far
as to say that the majority is often wrong.

Same argument applies to the veil.

I think the real issue here is the scale of "local culture".  Should
this sort of law be allowed on a national level, or should it be
restricted to state, city, or even narrower scope.  I don't know.  My
gut feeling is the more local the better, but that gets tricky with
global media like TV and the internet.

The scale of "local culture" should end at the individual and the individual's
right to choose what kind of life to live in any locale.

-Orion



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  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) Who said anything about the majority? I just said "enough people". The problem with your argument is that it implies all laws are bad so long as one person disagrees. Well, if that one person likes to kill people, you've got a problem. Without (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Skin (was: Re: Once again, etc.)
 
(...) We're catering to the sensibilities of the local culture and the laws they enact. If enough people in one society decide public sex acts should be illegal then they should be free to create laws to that effect. If you can convince enough (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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