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Re: Socialised Medicine (was Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant (you've been warned))
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Tue, 14 May 2002 15:56:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Simon Bennett writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > > Privatizing everything leads to the 'money talks, everything else walks'
> > > dichotomy. Those who have the cash are healthy, those that don't have the
> > > cash are unhealthy. Why would I be considered above my fellow person
> > > because I have more cash than they do?
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> OK. Can anyone who thinks a public health care system is a bad idea please
> explain why that argument does not hold for a public education system. To
> me, and I would guess to most who support these two things, they are both
> about ensuring equality of opportunity to a nation's citizens. After having
> done this could they please go out and campaign vociferously to dismantle
> the US public education system and replace it with a much more efficient
> private one.
I should begin by pointing out that you snipped the text in a way that makes
it look like David K's comments came from me, but I don't think it was
intentional.
To answer your question, many who favor privatized health care also favor
a privatized school system. They identify such shortcomings of US public
schooling as unacceptable reading skill, awful math and science education,
and generally poor performance in most areas that can be rated. Many, most,
or all of these shortcomings, they feel, would be overcome with the advent
of privately funded schools, and they point out that a great many members of
the US Congress send their kids to private schools, which are presumably
better than neighboring public schools.
But as a counter example, it is almost 100% certain that
industry-sponsored schools would become indoctrination centers for
"educating" children in the merits of whatever goods the school's sponsor
produces. I'll need to find the cite, but I've read of a school that
accepts funding from a certain candy manufacturer and therefore teaches
basic arithmetic using Tootsie Rolls as examples, no doubt along the lines
of "one delicious tootsie roll plus two delicious tootsie rolls equals three
delicious tootsie rolls." That's a caricature, to be sure, but I've never
read or seen or heard anything to convince me that such a corporate breeding
ground would not ensue.
Dave!
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| (...) Indeed. My apologies. (...) Oh they probably are, but they cost more, and it is divisive in terms of 'equality of opportunity' to have them. This is also interesting. What do you think is the benchmark they are using for unacceptability? Is it (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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