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Re: Peace in the Mid-East?
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Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:08:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes:
> correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Barak offer Arafat in one of the
> "agreements" a palestinian state in the west bank and gaza, including a
> capital in east Jerusalem? and was turned down, because Arafat wanted more?
Who can say why the offer was rejected? Arafat is a Grade A loser and the
Palestinians should get rid of him. At the same time, I saw it as an act of
bad faith on the part of the Israelis to vote Sharon into office considering
the sort of message it sends to the opposition. Now that both sides are led
by whackos -- well, you see the results...!
> well, I can see why Israel _had_ to take those territories in '67 - it comes
> down to the "defensible borders" thing... Besides, Israel conquored the
> west bank from Jordan - if anything, it should be returned to Jordan, not to
> the PA.
> what do you see that tells you that Israel doesn't want to co-exist? My
> opinion comes from talking to many Israelis (not counting my opinion being
> an israeli opinion to begin with), and it comes down to this: If the PA
> wants their own state in the west bank, great, give it to them. But no one
> trusts the PA (currently) not to use that state to launch attacks against
> the rest of Israel. And that's the problem, as I see it.
Can you see why the above two sets of statements don't seem to belong together?
So which is it -- are they distrustful and therefore act aggressively first
against perceived threats, or do they genuinely want to make peace with
possible neighbors?
Just thought I'd point this out.
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) If only the Palestinians lived in a Democracy and could get rid of him. I think perhaps this is the problem. As I understand it most, if not all, Arab nations are not Democracies. The people in those states know only what their leaders tell (...) (22 years ago, 27-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Barak offer Arafat in one of the "agreements" a palestinian state in the west bank and gaza, including a capital in east Jerusalem? and was turned down, because Arafat wanted more? (...) well, I can see why (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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