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Subject:	Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant (you've been warned) was Re: Peace in the Mid-East?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 14 May 2002 15:09:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: > How is having publicly funded and run hospitals intruding into my personal > life? I'm 35 and I have *never* had my life intruded by the medical > profession, the governement, or anyone else that I didn't want to intrude > into my life. My father (62) and mother (59) never had their lives intruded > upon. My Opa (lived to be 92) never had his life intruded on. I don't > understand that point. Well, as a criticism of public-funded programs, it wasn't a very strong point, so don't feel bad if you don't understand it. We've had countless discussions here about the US Gov't prying into everyone's dirty laundry (or medical history), and that fear (justified or not) will pervade US self-perception for a long time to come. > Privatizing everything leads to the 'money talks, everything else walks' > dichotomy. Those who have the cash are healthy, those that don't have the > cash are unhealthy. Why would I be considered above my fellow person > because I have more cash than they do? Be careful of straw man summations like that. A privatized system doesn't say "you're wealthy, so you're *better* that that impoverished fellow over there." Instead, the privatized system says "I am charging money for services I provide, and those who are able to pay for those services will receive them." There's no implication of "better" or "worse" people inherent in the privatized system. > Adaptability comes from seeing outside the box, outside the 'small picture'. "Outside the box" is another phrase that should be tacked onto Godwin's Law. Dave! And if Canada's public systems are so great, why did Neil Peart prattle on about all that Objectivist silliness? 8^)

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		Socialised Medicine (was Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant (you've been warned))
(...) OK. Can anyone who thinks a public health care system is a bad idea please explain why that argument does not hold for a public education system. To me, and I would guess to most who support these two things, they are both about ensuring (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant (you've been warned) was Re: Peace in the Mid-East?
(...) There might not be an obviously stated implication, but an inherent implication--"Those that don't have money, don't get" I am charging money for the services I render, and if you cannot afford to pay, you don't get my services. It's in (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant (you've been warned) was Re: Peace in the Mid-East?
My post was a rant. In oh so many ways I am thankful that our neighbour to the south is the USofA. I don't think I would be as happy if any other country was our closest trading partner, and I will forgive any country's transgressions that had (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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