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Re: Dave's Anti-American Rant (you've been warned) was Re: Peace in the Mid-East?
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Tue, 14 May 2002 15:40:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> Be careful of straw man summations like that. A privatized system doesn't
> say "you're wealthy, so you're *better* that that impoverished fellow over
> there." Instead, the privatized system says "I am charging money for
> services I provide, and those who are able to pay for those services will
> receive them." There's no implication of "better" or "worse" people
> inherent in the privatized system.
There might not be an obviously *stated* implication, but an *inherent*
implication--"Those that don't have money, don't get"
I am charging money for the services I render, and if you cannot afford to
pay, you don't get my services. It's *in* the system, it's an axiom, it's a
base rule. Better vs. worse, rich vs. poor, whatever--it's a 2 tier system,
with the inherent implication that the poor have to go to a charity hospital
for lifes necessities, but what kind of standard is that? If a chain is as
strong as its weakest link, the capitalist system fosters lots of weak
links. It also fosters big thick strong links, but the chain will still
break at its weakest link--I don't care how many millionaires and multi
millionaires are in the equation--look where it's deficient. Capitalism is
not a Just system. At best, it ignores the poor.
> Dave!
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> And if Canada's public systems are so great, why did Neil Peart prattle on
> about all that Objectivist silliness? 8^)
I'm up on alotta things but I missed this reference. I do agree that
Canada's systems are not the greatest by any stretch. I also don't look to
put our systems on other countries, either--there's the difference. 'Truth
, Justice and the Canadain Way' is not the running motto. We'll take the
plank out of our eyes first (I hope).
Dave
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| (...) Again, you're characterizing the system to portray it as unfair, but it's not a fair characterization. The fact that it's a 2-tier system is actually irrelevant, since it would be that way in any case. If health care is privatized, and if (...) (23 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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