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Re: Peace in the Mid-East?
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Mon, 13 May 2002 11:51:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > > > What does he have to hide?
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> > No answer? Has the cat got your tongue?
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> Grow up.
lol. A very adult statement!
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> > > > The world has been ignoring the problem since '67... and before. The problem
> > > > is Israel and its apologists. If they had chosen to abide by UN resolutions,
> > > > this would largely be history.
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> Do you really think so? I really don't.
Thanks for your view!
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> The Intifada is a result of
> > > > desperation/oppression, not a unilateral act of war.
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> What we are talking about here are two separate issues, which have been uniquely
> intertwined by Islamic extremists. First, you have the issue of autonomy for
> the Palestinians. But then you have Islamic extremists taking up the cause of
> the Palestinians and turning it into a Holy War against Israel and the West.
> Arafat and Bin Laden are merely using the Palestinians to further their own
> agenda, which really has no regard for the Palestinians people.
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> As I have stated before, the Palestinians need to denounce all of the hate
> groups that are trying to "help them" by murdering innocents, and forge their
> own destiny with Israel.
On Israel's terms?
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> > Even if that is true, and the reality were worse, Israel's actions force
> > them into the hands of Arafat… and worse. Look at how Hamas has gained
> > strength since Sharon came to power. Do you really think that is a
> > coincidence? Think about it for one second!
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> I think you have it backwards. Sharon's coming to power reflects an attitude
> change in Israel, which is that they are getting fed up with making concessions
> in "peace talks" and getting nothing in return but a growing number of terrorist
> attacks against them. They are coming to the realization that Islamic
> extremists will not rest until they have purged Israel from the earth no matter
> what concessions or agreements Israel makes.
...and the way to cut-off Hammas is with the education of their support, not
killing civilians. But remember, there are extremists on both sides... and
some of the Israeli ones are not even elected(!):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1982000/1982851.stm
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> Unfortunately for the Palestinians, they are merely pawns, caught in the middle
> of a large scale ideological (and now since 9-11, real) war. I truly believe
> that the *real* enemy of the Palestinians is actually the Arab world itself.
I can't agree with that.
Scott A
> -John
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| (...) Well, I am already being proven right, because it appears even today that Israel will refuse to allow the creation of a Palestinian state that is lead by murderous thugs like Arafat and his terrorist organizations. And frankly, I don't blame (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Grow up. (...) Do you really think so? I really don't. The Intifada is a result of (...) What we are talking about here are two separate issues, which have been uniquely intertwined by Islamic extremists. First, you have the issue of autonomy (...) (22 years ago, 11-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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