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Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
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Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:10:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > > Anyone who supports the actions of
> > > terrorists is just as culpable as the terrorists themselves.
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> > I happen to agree with this viewpoint.It's nice and tidy and has a nice
> > absolute finality to it. No equivocating. But it has a big problem. It opens
> > one up to questioning one's own motives.
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> > People who want to assail one's position will (rightly) point out that you
> > yourself have supported terrorists before.
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> Isn't that merely deflection; skirting the issue at hand? I talk about
> Palestininan terrorism, and they shift the focus to *my* supposed support of
> terrorism. How is that germane? Merely as an attempt to discredit me as a
> hypocrite? "Everyone's hands are dirty, so we can't judge"? I don't buy it.
Oh ya, I agree. But it's what you're up against here in this newsgroup.
Until you can make this case (at the meta level), you're stuck. And no one
here has been at all effective at making that case in the past. c.f. what
happened to me when I tried to argue with Dan J. that there was a difference
in degree between Israel and the PLO... went nowhere.
Hence debating this topic (and many others as well) is a waste of breath...
no common ground.
Note that decrying the tactic itself only works if you yourself have never
used it, and I fail on that regard since I've lambasted Scott for the UK's
egregious mishandling of internal and external affairs, especially w.r.t.
Palestine (I still consider the original partition of UK admined palestine
as a big part of the current problem)
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| (...) John, You said: "Anyone who supports the actions of terrorists is just as culpable as the terrorists themselves." I demonstrated that your tax dollars and your countrymen support "terror". I also shattered you allusion that Israel is a nation (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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