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(...) The dead in Iraq won't be given that chance... Do you seriously think Bush will giver power to anyone who upsets his little apple cart? Don’t be a fool, Bush wants Bases & Oil; not freedom for Iraq! (...) (URL) Many do:> Consider the explosion (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Maybe, or maybe not. In terms of religion and faith, you yourself are far less free than I am--wouldn't you want to be free in the first place? And in any case, why must the American Vision of Freedom be the universal solution for everyone? (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think it is a bit offensive and even racist to believe that any human being wouldn't want to be free if truly given the chance. (...) What gives? Isn't that the very mantra of regulating Liberals? (...) He supports the will of the people who (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Again? That would require that we voted for him the first time. -->bruce<-- (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, heck, those wacky Iraqis might vote for Islamic extremists - an eventuality that the Guy Not Elected by "Yankees" did not even consider. Gotta save them from themselves, don't you know. Let's face it, why should Bush support the will of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I thought (URL) this> was a great article. Two key sections of text: “Two nights ago, this most dangerous man, George Bush, talked about "freedom in Iraq". Not "democracy" in Iraq. No, "democracy" was no longer mentioned. "Democracy" was simply left (...) (20 years ago, 17-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) NO!, I said it would be a start. Israel is perfectly entitled to defend itself... nothing more! (URL) this>: "The Israeli occupation army and paramilitary Jewish settlers have killed 545 Palestinian children and minors since the outbreak of (...) (20 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you are suggesting that if Israel stopped any and all violence against the Palestinians, that specific action would then stop Palestinian terror? Naive and wrong. (...) Those borders were pretty much proposed already and were rejected. As (...) (20 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps they could start by ending Israeli terror? Then they could return to the '67 borders and compensate refugees. Despite what the Old Testament says, the West Bank does not belong to Israel. Although it would be an injustice to the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What specifically do you propose Israel do to end Palestinian terror? What specific options are available? JOHN (no Yankee fan here---Win Twins!) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree. His belief that “terrorism” can be stopped by attacking the symptoms whilst (URL) stoking the cause> is very dangerous… and mind-boggling. Scott A (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To me, the worst part wasn't the press conference, but rather the follow-up reactions from the faithful. CSPAN this morning had a number of callers praising Dubya for his unshaking resolve, while others expressed satisfaction that Dubya had (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This been in all the local Canadian papers--not really a 'dirty little secret'. The gov't claims that this 'culling' is to help, not to hinder. Yeah, the Canadian gov't helping anyone right now is something I can live without. But who to vote (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought the whole tone was that of fawning sycophancy. A bunch of school kids would have been more probing. (URL) Another perspective>: Bush's demeanor was arrogant and unrepentant. Asked on numerous occasions to name things he would have (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) 1,000,000 unnecessary deaths?> "It is horrible to see the aftermath of this slaughter. There is blood everywhere. Every few feet as you walk across the ice, you pass by large pools of blood and carcasses lined up in open graves. Their eyes (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The press, at least, asked what I consider to be better questions. They seemed to be slightly apologetic or evasiv about the way they asked them--"There are those who say that.... How would you respond to those critics?" At least the questions (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You deserve what you get. I have never seen anyone shoot himself in the foot so much than in this press coverage... "When we get this Iraq thing right..." Yeah, we're waiting on that one, Mr. President... And the constant little laughs... this is no (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was not a speech; Blair struggles to find a sympathetic audience in the UK these days. (...) I feel sorry for the troops; there are not enough of them and they have the wrong type of training. I blame Bush, Rumsfeld etc for the alleged (...) (20 years ago, 13-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Don’t be fooled by this; abandoning Iraq is not the only alternative. Scott A (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If I could stop the murder of Iraqi civilians simply by over-estimating the number of deaths, I would certainly do so. Wouldn't you? Anyway, do you have documentation for your rebuttal of Iraqbodycount's methodology? If you're correct, then (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, "Bill"(1) took another wound... 1 - our Irish friend... "Bill O'Rights" (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This story makes me feel safe from miscreant, drug-addled deviants everywhere. I particularly like this part: (...) **snip** (...) In essence, "an unidenfied, confidential source" (which in practice is no different from "no source at all") (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who? (...) Sure. It was a great speech. Brought a tear to my eye. If only it were all true. We're not uniformly the good guys here by any stretch of the imagination. (1) I dunno about you but viewing some of the Fallujah footage, I kept (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Neb Okla" <n_okla@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:HvvD0p.1pwI@lugnet.com... (...) really harmed in this incident. Frank (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) about (...) updated (...) doubt (...) for (...) Most of what they have now are aerial photos, however, when the site first opened, there were satellite photos. One of the satellites was a Russian one. The aerial photos are clearly of much (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Phil Mikkelson was great yesterday; Blair was (URL) better> JOHN (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I did see the episode - my virgin eyes were spared by recropping the shot? Not that that sequence made the slightest ounce of sense in regards to Vulcans. T'Pol either was dropped on her pointy ears as a child or is suffering from undiagnosed (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Unfortunately, this is another example of how things are better in Canada than in the US. The episode was "Harbinger," and the relevant scene was edited slightly differently for hosers than for Yanks. Dave K gets all the breaks. If my guess is (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You have not answered my question! (...) What planet are you on!? Read (URL) this>: Up to 200,000 Iraqi believers, many of them Shias, crowded into the precinct of Baghdad's largest Sunni mosque yesterday to denounce the American occupation (...) (20 years ago, 11-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:Hvuy9o.16uv@lugnet.com... (...) So my (...) are off (...) street (...) the (...) Terraserver had the house I grew-up in on the wrong side of a river - about half a mile from (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Otherwise, they might raid Legoland. (URL) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) watch out for them dangerous criminals, after all, they might be in danger of gaining sympathy when they start to cry. What on earth is our world coming to? Back when I was growing up, this kind of incident probably wouldn't have even involved (...) (20 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Luckily, we all have Jerry Springer every day on TV to remind us. Yep, even here in Australia. ROSCO (20 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) She doesn't seem to take a nice pic--at least in that list o' pics. I completely concur--that makeup--ugh! I'm still stuck on Elin, though.... That's verrry nice... Dave K (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What!?! I missed that episode! Dang, at least that part of her is real...no, don't tell me if it isn't... -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) She's the 'daily hottie' today, coincidence of coincidences... (URL) be a PG-13 rating on that site--no nudity but some verrry nice pics from the likes of Maxim--so if ya don't like to (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course, there's absolutely no way to implement that policy effectively, or to police it credibly, unless we have a clear, precise, and consistent definition of what qualifies as pornography. Who would care to posit such a definition? (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I knew I should have checked my spelling on that - I've been spoiled by the "edit" feature on Classic-Castle. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Community standards." I'm not surprised. Could Howard Stern curse away if he was only in L.A.? :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's not indulge in sophistries. (...) What part of, "it wasn't," wasn't clear? :-) The star fits over the nipple and has a hole in the middle that the nipple thrusts through (oh, hey, for a technical explanation, that turned out a bit (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Where this falls down is in the area of expectations. We can use turning Stern off in advance of his broadcast as an effective way of not listening to what we don't want to listen to, precisely because we have an expectation already set about (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You need to check your anatomy books. The nipple was completely exposed. What was {partially} covered was the areole - (URL) Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a local thing - I've heard songs in CA and realized for the first time that they were *NOT* recorded with silence or a bleep during obvious obscenity. Now that I moved out of CA, I get to hear silence again ;-) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're forgetting that you were forewarned that the half-time show was being brought to you by the letters M and TV. Even with that 'heads up', you still sit there and say "I didn't know the halftime show was going to be tasteless!"? (...) The (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: FORTUNE5.htm (...) One knows what to expect on the Howard Stern show. I don't have a problem with his show, beyond that I think it is stOOpid. One knows what to expect at the Super Bowl, and that is (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:Hvuy9o.16uv@lugnet.com... (...) So my (...) are off (...) street (...) the (...) Yea, my apartment complex really screws up these algorithms. Each apartment in the complex (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You seem to be under the impression that american television hasn't shown bare breast before. Halftime at the Super Bowl was just an inappropriate place. I thought the commercials were far more tastless (even more tasteless than the beer they (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) we're back to Howard Stern--if you don't like what he has to say (and I don't) then for the love of freedom of choice, turn the radio station. As far as censorship goes--to that old arguement 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre is wrong (unless (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I have only recently returned from a family vacation and was content to lurk around a while, but since my name was envoked, I thought I'd comment on Alanis' behavior and the pious criticism of America's "prudishness". Let's cut to the chase, (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Reason is one of my fave mags... I cite from it here on a regular basis. So my opinion is of course biased but I find it well worth 15 a year. It's got a viewpoint you're not going to find very many other places, mores the pity. I have a (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And yet at the same time, Aljazeera.net (of all places) prints this (URL) upbeat article. Is it really ALL bad news, or is that just the stuff that sells? (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: <snip> (...) Canadians and boring kinda go hand in hand... Waittaminit... Anyway, not so much a protest against nudity, rather a protest against censorship and the furor caused by Janet's boob-- (...) (20 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This is way cool: (URL) worth the $15 bucks for a subscription. Subscribing by April 9th, 2004 will get you a copy: https://www.kable.co...ewsubs.asp (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No need to find a marriage licence between Hussein and OBL. The only link neccessary is that they both posed a threat. OBL was able to carry out his evil intentions in 2001, Hussein was stopped before he was able to harm us. (...) If Iraqi's (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nor does he mention Washington's “inaction” at the time; did the washington not block a UN motion condemning SH? (...) No, some say it is second only to Scottish Haggis. Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol. By "dealings", I assume you mean give them WMD and help oppress their populations? BTW: Don't forget, SH was the "lesser of two evils" during the 1991 uprising. (...) Are you saying all post 1945 US military actions have been illegal? (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, the point is that to justify his choice to invade Iraq, Dubya condemned Hussein for using chemical and biological weapons against his enemies and his own people. Dubya did not mention that these were the very same weapons and delivery (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I’ve always thought that this was a silly criticism, true twenty years ago, during the Iran/Iraq war we supported Hussein as the lesser of two evils, you act as if we furnished his palace and rolled out the red carpet. We often have dealings (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That very much depends on the body in question! ;) I'll be spending the next few days cycling (MTB) around (URL) and Blair Athol>, if I see a (URL) real one> I'll take it's picture and post it here! Scott A(URL) .> (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Not sure if (URL) this> should be here or in OT-Fun. Dave! FUT as appropriate! (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, Dave! Perhaps we should! The stuff is MUCH more offensive than looking at the human temple, er body, after all, Dave! (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) this> Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, let's look at the facts. The porn industry rakes in about $20 billion annually; how much money to Iraqis make off of their religious expression? Obviously, if they're not making a tidy profit, they're savages. Besides, don't castigate (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...and, like SH, Marcos was supported by Washington. (...) Forgive me, but I don’t remember the Philippines being invaded as part of an illegal and immoral war to remove Marcos? (...) It has been part of the occupation plan to fragment the (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here again the age old question, which is worse, stable but evil leaders, or democracy and instability. Similar thing happened in the Philippines, Marcos was corrupt and evil, but his regime was stable. As soon as he was removed chaos ensued. (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) WOW. This reminds me a lot of Douglas Coupland's end of the world fiction, particularly _Girlfriend In A Coma_ but even more surreal because it is real (!!). Great site. Thanks for the pointer, Frank. -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) God this makes me depressed. 1. To think that this is my country, a democratic country, where I must take a certain amount of responcibility for what is being done. 2. To hear a responce from someone being affected by these actions (something (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and until the weekend Bush was adamant it was infiltrators (Syrians, Iranians, Chechnyan’s etc) and "Sadam loyalists" who were to blame for the trouble. Scott A (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Despite the noise coming from Washington, and the right's "islamo-fascist" paranoia, Iraq remains < (URL) secular>. That said, I agree that Bush is radicalizing moderate opinion… and not just in Iraq! Only one country remains placid: his own. (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yup, this is exactly what I expected would happen - remove Saddam's infrastructure and the chief organizing force would be the religious fundamentalists, who will, of course, end up being a bigger threat than Saddam ever was. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I assume, across the pond, it doesn't look like what we saw from here but, I assure you, we, the people living down here don't need to read that article to see how "spectacular" it is. It amazes me dearly when I see how naive you Americans can (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pretty much what we both felt would be the case. It's a long article, but a fairly interesting one. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yawn. She protests protests over nudity by pretending to be nude? Wake me when the real protests start. Bland. Boring. Canadian. Zzzzzzz.... ;-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) crazy canucks! Go Alanis go! The Juno's happened a while back, and Alanis appears on stage in this 'nude suit' and yet no furor, no legislation, no yippy "too much time on their hands" members of parliament talking about passing censorship (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It's all bad news - Chaos in liberated Iraq Liberated from SH, but still not free. The current uprising started when Bush decided he’d close down a newspaper; since when has he been opposed to a biased press? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) what's that old axiom--"Violence begets violence"? Have fun after storming the castle... Dave K (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) this article is to be believed we are losing the peace quite spectacularly. (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's the Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC (URL) website>), a group that says it is trying to work within the GOP to make it more (small L) libertarian... I can't speak to whether it's having any positive effect on the party or not. John Neal (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If Iraq ends up a "stone age hell hole", it won't be the UN's fault; this mess is Bush's making. Scott A (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And replace him with peace loving Kerry? Let me see here is a quote by John Heinz Kerry about Iraq back in 1998 "I am personally prepared, if that's what it meant. I don't think you have to start there. I think there are a number of other (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Worst of all: he’ll get away with it. As a related aside, this was in Saturday's (URL) Guardian> (ie before yesterday's uprising): I have gone to the mosques and street demonstrations and listened to Muqtada al-Sadr's supporters shout "Death (...) (20 years ago, 5-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello wrote regarding (URL) link>. (...) If I understand Dubya's agenda, he'll be evacuating on June 30th out of fear. Granted, troops will remain in Iraq, but the withdrawal-at-all-costs is a cowardly tactic to (...) (20 years ago, 5-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Anti-Bush US Media?> Tyler Crotty, a 13-year-old from Florida, has whipped up a surprisingly big storm in the US, considering that all he did was yawn. Fatefully, though, Tyler chose to express his overwhelming sense of tedium - yawning, (...) (20 years ago, 3-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thanks Dave. Your post reminded me of (URL) this story>: The justice department inquiry also found that the FBI officer in charge of retrieval of evidence at the landfill site in New York where most of the World Trade Centre debris was taken (...) (21 years ago, 2-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) A comforting read> Dave! (21 years ago, 2-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I hear you all, probably that link was to "R" rated for FBTB.. But I had to post it, it's one of the funniest creations I've seen in a long time.. I can't stop laughing whenever comes to mind..LOL. And Allister, you're last comment is a sad (...) (21 years ago, 2-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate (...) It's all in the terminology: ref. 'War On Drugs' - by inference, war is ok, drugs are not. And remember, this is a time of war. We want to bring up kids that will fight and kill, but not ask why. Allister (21 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Cash in, and make another movie? ;) Thankfully, I only saw censored pictures of what happened. A few people died yesterday, and that is upsetting to both me and you. However, you should note that a great deal of innocent civilians have been (...) (21 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) is frighteningly reminiscent of the events in Somolia that inspired the movie Black Hawk Down. So the obvious question is what do we do now? Do we act as Bill Clinton did in Somolia and evacuate the area out of fear? Do we act as the voters of (...) (21 years ago, 1-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The right wing Israeli group Ateret Cohanim “is the spiritual focus for the return of Jews to their homes in the "Moslem" (once known as the Mixed) Quarter.” (i.e. this group, supported by Sharon, is engaged in ethnic cleansing). Where does it (...) (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I own a 2004 Prius, and it doesn't look THAT much like Lego in real life ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build)
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(...) SNIP there: (URL) Jeff (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: SNIP (...) i just looked at the link, and when i did, i notced the little toyota ad on the left-looks like it brought the off-topic back on-topic (maybe 'prophetic'-hehehehe!)--i thought it was funny i (...) (21 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build, FTX)
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(...) No doubt we'd have declared war on Amazon.com by now, and we'd have been right and perfectly justified in doing it, of course. (...) Out of curiosity, what's the name of Dubya's education policy again? Coincidence? What could it portend? (...) (21 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Just imagine the uproar if (URL) this book> was about Islam and had been bought by 2 million Muslims in the USA or Europe: “Glorious Appearing is the last in a 12-book series called Left Behind published over the past nine years. The first 11 novels (...) (21 years ago, 30-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ooh ooh ooh don't forget Shrub's lap-dog, Little Johnny Howard. ROSCO (21 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I must admit to thinking the exact same thing. You should listen to some of Blair's(1) pronouncements; he goes to great lengths to not to tell a lie. What makes it worse is that he is quite unashamed about it. I expect both Bush & Blair just (...) (21 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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