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Re: Clearly those Canadians are concerned about censorship...
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Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:23:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: FORTUNE5.htm
  
And we’re back to Howard Stern--if you don’t like what he has to say (and I don’t) then for the love of freedom of choice, turn the radio station.

As far as censorship goes--to that old arguement ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theatre is wrong (unless there really is a fire ;) ) but curtailing the yelling of ‘fire!’ isn’t censorship, it’s a safety issue and falls out of the domain of censorship and into the domain of personal fredom and responsibility--like the right to swing my arm until it contacts your nose. Janet didn’t harm anyone with her covered nipple, nor does Stern harm anyone with his daily antics.

One knows what to expect on the Howard Stern show. I don’t have a problem with his show, beyond that I think it is stOOpid. One knows what to expect at the Super Bowl, and that is certainly not bare breast.

And you keep saying “covered nipple” - it wasn’t (well, maybe from the side to some degree).

   I think it’s silly that people got into a furor over a covered nipple. Especially in a country that prides itself as freedom loving. If you wish to read ‘boasting’ into my ‘Hey, isn’t this little thing that Canadians are doing good ‘nuff for debate?’ then I’ll read ‘hypocritical’ into ‘hey, we believe in the first ammendment except when we don’t like what we hear or see’.

It’s “public airwaves”, not “pubic”. :-)

  
Now we fully agree--but what’s this knocking on the door? Oh look, it’s the FCC. Something about the letter F screams, oh I don’t know, Federal or something. Sounds like governement intervention to me. And once you play that card, then you start the ‘big brother’ scenario--if I say this on the air, I may get fined--therefore I will not say that on the air.’ The gov’t can sit back and say, “Well, we didn’t censor anything!” but in a way they did by the thought of the threat. And that’s a very difficult hill to get over. How can the political debaters feel ‘free’ enough to point out perceived flaws in the system if they feel the system will punish them? It starts with the Sterns, et al, but the precident is then made.

Radio can’t let Howard Stern say the F word, but The Who can in a song. Never hear it blipped out or censored. Now there’s hypocrisy.

-->Bruce<--



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  Re: Clearly those Canadians are concerned about censorship...
 
(...) You're forgetting that you were forewarned that the half-time show was being brought to you by the letters M and TV. Even with that 'heads up', you still sit there and say "I didn't know the halftime show was going to be tasteless!"? (...) The (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Clearly those Canadians are concerned about censorship...
 
(...) That's a local thing - I've heard songs in CA and realized for the first time that they were *NOT* recorded with silence or a bleep during obvious obscenity. Now that I moved out of CA, I get to hear silence again ;-) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Clearly those Canadians are concerned about censorship...
 
(...) (URL) we're back to Howard Stern--if you don't like what he has to say (and I don't) then for the love of freedom of choice, turn the radio station. As far as censorship goes--to that old arguement 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre is wrong (unless (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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