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(URL) this is a thing about Canada... so don't worry 'bout it... " It dismisses what it sees as the government's "ridiculous argument" that it needs to go slow in framing any legal changes because there is no "consensus" in Canada. "All Canadians (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What can I say? You set yourself up for the obvious. It needed to be said to draw you off your high horse, but you if you wish to remount... :-) (...) If we continue to pass judgment on it, then the document remains living, not simply a 200 (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You say that like it's a bad thing. But no, I am not, the NRA are misguided, they miss the point when they talk about hunting and home defense. The point is right there in the 2nd amendment. (...) Funny, I often think the same thing when (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then John's right, it IS specious, used in this context. You can't lay 70 years of building up an underclass via income transfer, 50 years of futile drug warfare and increased loss of liberties, 40 years of failed social engineering, 30 years (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The comparison was between leaders, not countries. (...) I think it's bothersome, and hence I pointed it out. (...) I've heard that, but don't know from whom it came. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh I love it when people say that others don't understand... throw the argeuement into question by alluding to ignorance or incompotence... nicely done. I'm well aware of the evolution of the laws. I'm also aware of the ability to strike and (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How so? I don't happen to agree with the conclusion being drawn, or at least implied, (that we are either as bad or almost as bad as DPRK... as if!) but the large number of incarcerations among the underclass strikes me as a sign of oppression (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Steven lane" <steveroblane@aol.com> wrote in message news:HG9vo5.1099@lugnet.com... (...) it's (...) deflected (...) lost (...) of the (...) planet and (...) moving (...) the (...) the (...) sustain (...) Well, if you could surround the planet (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John, if this is true, I definitely do NOT want you as President when you hit your 50s - you already spout such narrow-minded ideas here, I'd hate to see you get even more conservative. (Luckily I know that in person you seem to be a completely (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hm, I was going to post something to John on this subthread, but Bruce pretty much summed up everything I was getting ready to type. Nicely said, Bruce. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup. And one which only time will tell. It was done in Nazi Germany and imperialist Japan; it can be done again today. JOHN (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Consequences? We've hardly seen the final outcome! Maybe regime change in the U.S. will bring our young men and women home. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's a huge assertion John - as we've hardly even begun to see all the consequences yet. ROSCO (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Totally agree with you Bruce, Riordan didn't excite a single conservative, but he would have run a much better campaign. Simon ran against one of the weakest candidates ever, and he was horrible. I don't think he is personally stupid, just a (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol what I meant was that his question was completely specious to the topic:-) (...) I don't like statistics based on race because I think that they generalize in a way that is unhealthy. We are all Americans. What purpose is there to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, the Republicans are to blame, and on two counts. Instead of putting up Richard Riodan, who could have beat Grey, the right wingers decided he didn't pass the far right litmus test, and put up a total loser that even the incompetent (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh dang, and here I agree, but in the meantime with all those wild-eyed Libertarians out there, should I get the Springfield XD-9, or the Glock 19? (...) No wait, it wasn't about WoMD, it was about the Al Qeada terroist link! We can't prove (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I take it what you meant to write and what you actually wrote are two different things. If you are completely specious, then that means you denial of being a racist is specious, therefore... Teases about unintended sentence structure aside, I (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, you are saying that Canadians will completely trash by 2182 what was written in 1982? That the Canadians of 1982 were incompetent? Sounds like the problem is in Canada, not America. :-) (...) We have methods of change built in. By your (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure you understand the definition of "racism", but to find an example of it, look below: (...) FYI some of the richest Americans happen to be black-- Ask Oprah, or Michael or Tiger, or the 1,000s of other black millionaires. I think (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hang on just a second, having met John on two occasions I can tell you that he is not only definately not racist, but one of the nicest guys I have ever met. I would bank money on the fact that statements he has made in the past were (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol So what if he is? (...) How about hunting? (...) Are you sure it's "free"? [JOHN] (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey! I wish! I'd feel terrible for you if you were molested as a child. The fact is that I of course exagerated the facts, but I really have few respect for priests. I was joking, even if I didn't put a smily after my post. Here is one for the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually the crime rate differnce has nothing to do with gun control. Most of the studies I have seen actually suggest the crime rate went up after the main gun control laws were put into effect in Canada. The crime rate in Canada has always (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Québec is the largest in size, but Ontario is the biggest in population, no? Anyway, it's sad to see the Liberals trying endlessly to block that. Gays should be allowed to de the same things as hetero. That's what true freedom and equality is (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How ignorant... No it won't. You believe that crap that Dubya's been telling you? Terry (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How about peace and love instead of bombing other countries? Last time I checked, freedom diodn't mean you're free to bomb Irak if you please and liberty didn't mean you have the liberty meant something more than limiting individual rights to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Too much gun control? What are you, a member of the NRA??? That's so stupid!!! I can't believe I just read that! What's the use of citizens having weapons??? Shooting each other? Well, if that's the reason why criminality is MUCH lower in (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 1. You are a racist, you've proved it many times in the past. Maybe you don't realize that judging other cultures by ignorance is a form of racism, in that case, instead of spending your time here, you should go visit the world and meet (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not that I'm equalling myself (and those who are trying for the turth in this matter) with the following people, But I wonder how Bernstein and Woodward felt whilst they were digging into Watergate before that brought down the president? I'm (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So there are similarities to George W Bush and Kim Jong? With all due respect, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. (...) I'm sorry, Dave, but it is moronic to compare the two. It is such a stupid idea that it requires no (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No problem, Dave. When you find an idea that improves upon the ideas of liberty and freedom, let us know. We haven't one yet. JOHN (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is that supposed to be a joke? (...) No he didn't. He should have carried right on to Baghdad and deposed SH then. But he didn't have the guts. Big mistake. On his defense, he abided by the UN charter. As I said: big mistake. (...) Thanks to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) You're going to bring up something that happened in "the last millenium"? And didn't Dubya's Pappy, with the world backing him up, mind you, take care of that? And did 'aggrassive' Iraq do (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Funny that--and if a group of men were to write up a list of, say, laws that I would like to follow, when would I want those laws to be written? Say, 200+ years ago before there were street lights, law enforcement, cars, and the like, or say, (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, it was Iraq invading Iran AND Kuwait. Busy, busy. (...) What is the cost? Didn't cost you a thing. We paid for it, and gladly so. The price for freedom was relatively cheap IMO. Consequences? Millions have been liberated? You have a (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't know why you keep piping up with that line. You're beholden to a piece of paper that was written recently, and had to ask some foreign royalty to even get that far. And you wouldn't have gotten that far except for us setting the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The problem with "your" moron is that he's taking his moronic policies and telling other countries what they have to do to keep him happy. If Dubya was content being an idiot in his own back yard, I would have no issue, really. Heck, the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Celibacy leads to abused altar boys." -Some Self-Appointed Wit Said before the current revelations about recent news headlines concerning the clergy. But there is an unstated smiley behind it. I took it that this was the same. :-) (...) (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hey. Maybe you think canada is a great place. Ive been there, and it aint much different than the US. Maybe you should just get off the US's case, eh? Dubya may be a moron, he may not. That's not the point. He's our moron. You have a problem with (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) It doesn't follow that lower taxes due to lower government education expenditure would lead to higher private spending on education. (When the Australian Government cut it's 'gun byback' tax, I did not rush out and spend my tax (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You reckon? Most likely? Come on, show me a reference that says that 51% of religious men molest boys. Your comment is without base, and apparently without thought. (...) It might. It might also tell us that that Jesuits value education (and (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Canada has economic issues? And the US doesn't? And the gun control thing? That's what makes us a better country. Oh, and we're not beholden to a piece of paper written generations ago. So, your QED?--not so much. Me thinks you're buying your (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, no. Saying so ain't making it so. Canada has economic issues, and too much gun control. QED. (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh really. A ruler that lives in luxury, making questionable edicts for his country--a country in turmoil right now? I'm not 'equalling' Dubya with the leader of N Korea, I'm saying there are similarities. Moronic is not realizing that the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I seem to recall an arms buildup in "aggressive" Iraq to go invade the US... oh wait, it was the opposite. Iraq wasn't agressive at all--it was the US agressiveness--politically, economically, and militarity--agressive on all (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The missile in itself won't be much of a weapon without a powerful warhead. A SCUD armed with 1 ton of TNT will do less damage than a "daisy cutter" or similar ordnance. (...) Technically, since the previous armistice (1991) Iraq did not (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) See, it's dumb comments like that that contribute nothing. Your equation of KIS and Bush is just moronic, bigotted blather. JOHN (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "and such", such as ballistic missiles (Scuds)? (...) If defense is the actual intent. Iraq was an aggressor, and to characterize it, especially with SH at the helm, as anything but is just ludicrous. JOHN (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Ummmm, Canada, but you saw that one coming a mile away... (...) All too true. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, the WoMD was--there was nothing in the res. that said that Iraqi's couldn't have, say, a factory producing bullets and rifles and such--that's a weapons program... To deny a country the right to defend itself is just ludicrous. Dave K (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) planet and (...) moving (...) This sounds suspiciously like the Doctor Who story "Dalek Invasion of Earth" where the Daleks were drilling down to the molten core of the planet in order to drain it away and install a propulsion system so they (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He's not exactly a despot on the level of KIS. Not yet, anyway. The trend points in that direction, though. Live in the US? Vote Libertarian, because the demopublicans ain't stoppin' the trend, not neither of 'em. Or, if you don't like semi (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Kinda like Dubya... Oops, did I infer that Dubya's a despotic ruler ignoring the plight of his people? Oh wait, that's exactly what I meant--no inference necessary. (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Minessoooooooota.... Always liked saying that.... Hey, you have the 'twin cities'.... And murals painted on buildings on the 'west side' (which, iirc, is the south side, but that crazy river and all....) Dave K (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: (URL) (...) Dam right! what makes it even sadder is that the ruler lives in opulence while his people suffer and die. (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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... and so do some of the rest of us! (thank (whomever they tend to thank) that you're a Canadian and not, say, a Minnesooootttaaan) JUST KIDDING. (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) UN res 1441, among others. (...) Actually, I think that is precisely the reason. JOHN (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A weapons programme and WoMD are not the same thing. Canada has a weapons programme somewhere, I'm sure--our armed forces must have some sort of hardware for their job. Telling a country that they can't have a weapons program?? Telling Iraq (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Apathy on the part of hopeful americans and back-peddalling on the part of the president -- with everyone behaving like the members of a dysfunctional family until all the annoying skeletons in the closet just go away... Under-Fire President (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Or at least an Ontarian ;) (URL) Stark and Michael Leshner were able to marry immediately The highest court in Canada's largest province, Ontario, has ruled that gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry there " I also have to research (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just as I can't yell "Fire!" in a theatre causing undue panic, when there was no fire, Dubya cannot yell "Clear and imminent danger" and incite us into a "terror driven frenzy" which caused the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians, untold (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Naw, they'll just outsource everything and sell to fewer and fewer customers for more dollars per unit. Alternatively, they will sell to fewer americans and westerners in general, but more persons on a global scale overall -- even if the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) We have a branch out in Windsor that lost its WAN connection-- AT&T were blaming the Bell guys--saying it was the actual phone lines, Bell was blaming the AT&T guys, saying it was the 'cloud' (but all our other branches were still working thru (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Remember though that all the parents have lower taxes and thus have more money than before to choose an appropriate private school. Also, there would be a greater variety of schools, religious and non-religious (and even a few (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's an awfully gross and unfair claim, and I resent the implication that I am "most likely a molester" since I consider myself a religious person and have been actively involved in youth ministry for about 10 years. I'd also like to point (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I disagree. It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Especially after knowing what hapenned in Macau during WW2. And let's face it, 20 million people have to eat - if they don't produce enough and can't get the rest in the market, they will (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mebbe so. Would you deny that the lot of the people under the rule of DPRK is far worse than the lot of those under the rule of the ROK??? Whether it's as bad as this article alleges, who cares, exactly, it's still bad. I'll go out on a limb (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm, I tried this first thing before, and it didn't work -- I must have mistyped something. In UNIX it's actually "traceroute". But yeah, I just tried it again for lugnet and it worked perfectly. Many thanks. Exactly what I had in mind. -- (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Just open up a DOS window and type in tracert (insert IP addy here) 'Traces' the 'route' from your system to the destination system, the number of 'hops', how long it took, and lists the IP address as well as the DNS entry (if there is one) (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No arguments, really. But check out where most of my posts come from, the raw view would have given you this for that last post: 67.123.147.114. Then you could have gone somewhere sketchy like: (URL), entered the IP and gotten this result: (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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This looks like another piece of crap coming straight from people who want to show us that the N. Coreans are evil and that they should be the next target... Lame article. No journalistic value whatsoever. Terry (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yuck... Give a religious man a boy of that age and what you'll most likely get is another boy molested by a priest/preacher/whatever... But it does tell us a lot about religion that go after the younger, more innocent and less critic people to (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Next poll should be How many of you should leave AOL and get a real internet service 75% Leave AOL 10% Stick with them 15% AO what? Sorry froggy I just had to poke at AOL. Being a recovering 7 year AOL subscriber I can promise you that you can (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Agreed. Over here (URL) I wrote some stuff relating to this issue. Best part: "There is no need to sally forth, for it remains true that those things which make us human are, curiously enough, always close at hand. Resolve, then, that on this (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Pretty good thinking I'd say. Ashcroft scares me more than ever. Add to that all the other people latching on to terrorism for their own pet causes.... SUVs enable terrorism. Using drugs enables terrorism. Supporting the war on drugs enables (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I was discussing the whole gun control thing with someone today. That person made a comment along the lines of, "what good will small arms do against a modern military." My reply was, "I don't know ask the PLO, IRA, Veit-Cong, or any other group (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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How credible is Bush? 46% Not at all 86,047 39% Very 74,361 15% Somewhat 28,102 Total votes: 188,510 Which issue will make Bush most vulnerable in 2004? 67% Economy 123,965 15% War in Iraq 27,203 9% Special interests 16,795 5% War on terror 9,779 4% (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry, Kooties - you have a long wait ahead of you. The tail wags the dog thing might even win him the next election (and thereby provide him his first legitimate presidency). Too fat (pass me the chips, eh?)... Too comfy (watching the idiot (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Real solution? It sounds like a good idea, until one considers the possible results of such a policy: Public schools (at least in Australia, and I am led to believe in the US as well) offer the cheapest education. Most parents want to (if not (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And speaking of terror-inducing rhetoric, did anyone catch the great new pronouncement from none other than Dubya himself today that "Al-Qaeda will try to use weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. within the next two years." (I wonder, (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Unitarian Universalism (was Re: Separation of Church and State)
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(...) (URL) (color doesn't matter) is a pretty universal UU symbol. This page: (URL) is a good place to start and exploration. (...) There is actually a pretty strong base, it's just that it's somewhat fluid. While UUism is talked about as a (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Many people prefer to give charitable donations anonymously, and charitable donations are pretty much 'the right thing to do', aren't they? ;-) Cheers Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South Pacifique (2 URLs) Misérable (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why not? Some people already consider clones to be blasphemy! Dave! (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In my slightly rural high school, Thanksgiving vacation included the following Monday. This was widely considered to be due to the fact that buck hunting season began on that day, so a great number of kids would skip school anyway. Your point (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) What I still don't get is that even *if* they find WoMD, as some here are banking on just so they can say "I told you so...", it still in no way justifies this war. Find Anthrax and (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Famine-struck N Koreans 'eating children' (URL) "Pieces of 'special' meat are displayed on straw mats for sale. People know where they came from, but they don't talk about it." Sad beyond words to encompass. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The practising Catholics were always easily identifiable come Ash Wednesday. You are not supposed to wash the ashes off your forehead (except as a byproduct of washing yourself in general) and I have never heard of a school forcing them to (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Who's Accountable? (URL) For example, look at the way the administration rhetorically linked Saddam to Sept. 11. As The Associated Press put it: "The implication from Bush on down was that Saddam supported Osama bin Laden's network. Iraq and the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's a brilliant idea. Instead of using nukes to deflect asteroids heading for Earth, find the biggest thwacking great asteroid you can find and deflect it straight at Mars and smash it to bits. Then wait for the remains to coaless, cool (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an excellent idea for a clone MOC. Get to work! FTX killed my smiley face emoticon!!! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I was trying to address this very issue, but I snipped it 'cause it wasn't sounding good at all. I was going to say that little Timmy drawing Rambo with a severed head in his hand as his (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is a minor problem here about clubs. My inclination is that clubs should be allowed so long as the school does not use religion to determine if the club is allowed (i.e. a religious club could be disallowed if it proposes some activity (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely! And if someone tries to prevent those people from praying, I'll be first in line to defend their right to pray as they choose. The right to worship is Constitutionally protected, even on school property (provided that it's not done (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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GRIN.... (...) This is off topic for .debate... it belongs in .geek! C'mon guys! Now if you want to debate whether melting Mars is a good idea or not, that's different. :-) Personally I'm not sure it's a good idea, or necessary. There's plenty of (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Entering extrreme geek zone OK let's do the math every thing is metric radius of the earth = 6378137 meters figure the "core" is 1/4 radius out 1594534.25 volume of core 4/3 * PI * R-cubed = 16982051976875485000 = 1.7e10^19 M^3 Ignoring (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Where I agree about the 'separation of church and state' means that 'official school sanctioned religious prayer' is a no-no, people getting together and praying to their deity, unofficial like and not school supported at all is quite fine. (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Blow the planet up, hope that gravity reforms enough material into Mars, and have the resultant material heat up from the process. That would be more practical than attempting to alter the orbit of Mars I would imagine. :-) If you had the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who knows? And who cares? I think the last elections already proved enough that it isn't what you stand for, but who you know (or your daddy knows) that will make you a winner. So, then ext elections will probably happen around the time that (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Whoa whoa whoa!!! You two faced so-'n-so!!!
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(...) LOL!!! Dave, you took the words right out of my mouth! But of course, Canada had ulterior motives "but it will take time to find them"... ;-) Terry (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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