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Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 12 Jun 2003 03:29:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Spencer Nowak wrote:
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Dam right! what makes it even sadder is that the ruler lives in opulence
while his people suffer and die.
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Kinda like Dubya...
Oops, did I infer that Dubya’s a despotic ruler ignoring the plight of his
people? Oh wait, that’s exactly what I meant--no inference necessary.
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See, it’s dumb comments like that that contribute nothing. Your equation
of KIS and Bush is just moronic, bigotted blather.
JOHN
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Oh really.
A ruler that lives in luxury, making questionable edicts for his country--a
country in turmoil right now?
I’m not ‘equalling’ Dubya with the leader of N Korea, I’m saying there are
similarities.
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So there are similarities to George W Bush and Kim Jong? With all due
respect, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
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Moronic is not realizing that the similarities exist. Blathering is using
terms like ‘dumb, bigotted, blather’ without *refuting* one word of it.
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I’m sorry, Dave, but it is moronic to compare the two. It is such a stupid
idea that it requires no refuting-- its idiocy is self-evident. Perhaps you
should do some homework and learn what kind of man KJ actually is.
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What’s the number one cause of death for a black male in America b/w ages 18
and 34?
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Besides being completely specious, I am no racist and therefore have no time
for racist statistics.
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What’s your current deficit? What’s your environmental record under
this appointed leader like?
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What’s your point? Are you wanting to compare NK’s deficit and environmental
record under KJ and ours under GWB?
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We can get up in arms by the atrocities and injustices that are in N Korea,
and perhaps point out the disgusting things that may be going on there, but
does that exempt the same type of scrutiny from your either inept or
boldfaced liar of a president?
Refute away. Your emporer is a moron.
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This is exactly what I am talking about. How would you have me respond to
repetitive, ad hominem attacks? Your posts have devolved to
conservative-baiting and US-trashing trolls. You even managed to raise the
ire of -->Bruce<-- with your tired, silly attack of the US Constitution.
Could I go back a week or 2 and find a day where you haven’t called GWB a
“moron”? I doubt it. It’s old and tired.
JOHN
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Not that I’m equalling myself (and those who are trying for the turth in this
matter) with the following people,
But I wonder how Bernstein and Woodward felt whilst they were digging into
Watergate before that brought down the president? I’m sure there was much
pressure from the paper, the fellow journalists, the other media outlets, and
even from political offices to shut them up.
All the naysayers touting ‘old and tired’...
Well, the way I figure, I’m not either of those two people, but that shuold not
disuade me from finding truth in a sea of partisan rhetoric.
US trashing trolls? When I come up against “we’re the best country in the
world”--I’m striving for some equilibium. When points are dismissed without one
shred of, well, anything, I say, “Eh, you’re just reinforcing the idea that
you’re a hack.”
I listened to the radio spot of O’Reilly shutting down the son of a victim of
9/11 and it disgusted me--here’s a man whose supposed agenda is to raise the
level of discourse saying, nay, shouting to get the kids mic unplugged. Hack.
Refute the points. But you can’t. You have to call them ‘racist’, you have to
call them “old and tired”. No refution anywhere. No dialogue. No debate. I
am more than willing to listen to a sound arguement. Saying “liberty and
freedom” as an answer is all cute and fluffy, but there’s no substance--it’s a
Hallmark card for the political hack.
Where’s the “liberty and freedom” for the 13000 folks being deported? Oh
right--they’re really not Americans, even though some of them have been living
in your country for years, have families here, oh but in the name of safety and
security--outcha go! “Bring us oyur tired, your hungry, your oppressed...”
Well, Lady Liberty--that much is pretty well gone. Where’s the liberty and
freedom for those speaking out against Dubya? oh right, they’re being put on
record and, if Patriot has anything to say about it, fingerprinted as suspected
terrorists. Kids being suspended for wearing the Peace sign on their t-shirts.
Freedom. And here’s you touting the piece of paper, black and white, “liberty
and freedom.” Let’s talk about how many people get shot every day becaouse of
your 2nd--I mean it’s ‘libery and freedom’, but those dead people neither have
liberty or freedom. But lets not mention that ‘cause dems our guns and we’s
likes our guns...
You say that comparing N Koreas leader with Dubya is wrong--well, folks are
dying due to the policies of those in charge in both countries. And the last I
checked, the American ‘liberty and freedom’ has more people in custody, per
capita, than, well, N Korea (as well as the former Soviet Union under
Communism). Neither leader is doing what’s right for their respective
countries, and both are being obstinent asses about it as well. At the rate
Dubya’s going, Cuba or N Korea’s going to be put in the gun sites next.
All hacks off the stage.
Dave K
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