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Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 12 Jun 2003 05:41:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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What’s the number one cause of death for a black male in America b/w ages
18 and 34?
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Besides being completely specious, I am no racist and therefore have no time
for racist statistics.
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I take it what you meant to write and what you actually wrote are two
different things. If you are completely specious, then that means you denial
of being a racist is specious, therefore...
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lol what I meant was that his question was completely specious to the topic:-)
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Teases about unintended sentence structure aside, I think “racist” is a word
tossed around too lightly at times, even if technically accurate (Terry’s
follow-up). But when you dismiss the statistics out of hand without even
hearing what they are, you are saying that you have prejudged them. You
don’t like the conclusion that can be drawn by whatever you suppose were the
statistics? Because they don’t fit your own preconceived notions? Because
they are inaccurate? Because they are are misleading (lies, damn lies, and
statistics)?
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I don’t like statistics based on race because I think that they generalize in a
way that is unhealthy. We are all Americans. What purpose is there to
categorize by race? And what do you do with such statistics anyway? What is
the #1 killer of American black men between the ages of 18 and 34? Of 17 and
33? Is it any more relevant than Hispanic men statistics? What about “whites”?
I think it is the statisticians who create such statistics in order to fit their
own preconceived notions to advance some agenda.
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You have to understand that there are pat, practiced, prepared answers that
idealogues (left and right, up and down) have. They are the kind of stock
thinking that you make use of a lot. I try not to take the sometimes hostile
attitude that some others have to you because some how, some way, I don’t
think you are a bad person at all.
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That’s because you are a very perceptive person, -->Bruce<--;-)
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You just have imposed a very narrow way
of thinking upon yourself. I keep hoping that you will expand your vision
some day.
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I may come off as a right wing ideologue, but I think I am a little more
open-minded then I apparently come off. Actually, it might surprise you to
learn that I started off a very liberal kollege student! Perhaps it is just my
getting more conservative in my old age:-)
JOHN
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