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I did not notice John had set FUT OTD. I still think it belongs in LD. But, it is here now. :-/ Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Libertarian comes through for the Terrorists
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Why am I not surprised: "Under White House prodding, a House panel on Thursday approved legislation to further expand the government's ability to cut money flows to terrorist networks. A parallel bill is part of Bush's sweeping anti-terrorism (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What, no answer? (...) Well, have you seen the light? (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | What, no answer?
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(...) What, no answer? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: eBay's Auction for America
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(...) That is not my main point. My point is that by giving a little they will also gain. I did not view it as a 100% altruistic effort on their part. Further, if you take a look at the auctions you will see that I have bid on them (~$850 so far). (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no idea. I hope not. (...) I'm also surprised. Do you agree with it? Scott A (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) Did I ever tell you a little story I heard about Tom? It goes like this ... :) Scott A (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
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(...) Do you have a reference for this? (...) The interesting thing about Libya is the hassle it got for the Pam-Am bombing over my fair land. It turns out that one of the accused was innocent and the second is appealing his conviction. I wonder if (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Ok, show me where I have lied? Or apologise.
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(...) Larry you are going to have to answer this one, or withdraw your comment and apologise unreservedly to me on this forum. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rather than comparing it to coal plants, how about keeping it within the realm of transport? Most reasonable people accept that roads should be policed to ensure that they are safe where driver/owner safety considerations are concerned. Why (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Malcolm Forbes
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(...) Your mind perhaps. "Education's purpose is to replace an empty mind with an open one." (...) If that is the case, feel free to provide the location of your answer. (...) ROFL. This is a SQUIRM. Is this really the best you can do? Have you no (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, this is a stark example of how your Libertarianism takes ideas out of context. You have some idea that rights and risks adhere to individuals. But that is no longer the essential principle in our present context. Rights have already (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Something slightly lighter?
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I must admit, I was laughing out loud at this! Whew! I hope nobody picks on Dino Ignacio, the guy who initially made the doctored photo of Bin Ladin with Bert when he was running his "Evil Bert" website years ago. I still think it was a funny idea (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) would (...) choose (...) Then why did Klick make a point of it? The current service being provided (air travel) benefits the passengers and is already paid for by them (generally). The proposed service (enhanced security) does not only benefit (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Doesn't matter who benefits. What matters is who is RESPONSIBLE. And that is the airlines. If they're not flying, no potential weapons... So the airlines should pay, or the passengers deriving benefit from travel and thus causing the risk to (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is difficult to justify a situation in which fliers and non-fliers alike would be taxed to provide a service that primarily benefits the first group." Umm, how many of the victims were actually on the planes? How do you[1] choose who benefits (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) OK, thanks for that correction. I stand corrected. (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | More on Airport security.
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This seems apropos. It questions the current federalization proposal from a different angle, the angle of who it is that ought to pay for it. (URL) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) Note that we're talking about drivers licenses here. I have seen LOTS of studies (and you could go dig them up if you wanted to, try starting at cato.org) about other sorts of licenses... all different kinds of licenses, showing inefficacy, (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) Well I COULD assert in all cases but it's not very provable, is it? (...) I'm suspecting not, since I don't know of any jurisdiction (similar enough to make meaningful comparisions, Botswana (if they didn't require them) doesn't count) that (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) But not in others? Surely the relative percentages of each would give an indication of whether the overall risk is lowered by licences or not? Have there been any studies about this? ROSCO (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) Actually, they were flying up to 9-11. They just decided as soon as the grounding occurred and it became clear that it was going to be more than just the rest of the day or so, that it wasn't worth trying to continue when they would lose so (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: I've lost a fan! LOL! ;-)
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Stifles laughter- ;-D Hmm, if you do the math, I think you release a model every month or so...? And your mecha are so varied it's scary. Whoever ths guy/girl is, their ludicrous, totally off it. I'm sure you know what I think of your models, and if (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: I've lost a fan! LOL! ;-)
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Ah, thanks for the suggestions. I did a search on LUGNET for his e-mail but nothing comes up that is related to it. It probably is just some kid playing a joke or trying to tell me something without giving up his identity. ;-) Funny thing is, I (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: I've lost a fan! LOL! ;-)
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(...) He sounds like an ignorable. Sounds like he does indeed want you to change your building habits, but was afraid to say so without seeming like someone who knew what he was talking about. Other than RTL and Lugnet, I don't think there are any (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | I've lost a fan! LOL! ;-)
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Here's an e-mail I received today, pardon me while I laugh hysterically. [e-mail on] I used to visit your site regularly. I was a huge fan. I looked forward to viewing your new models. Now, you put out a new model every 6 months and thats it. Not to (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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(...) Guns are already more easily obtained through illegal channels in the US. Increasing the difficulty of obtaining a gun through legal channels will not stop any criminals from getting them. Why do people assume that just because something is (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) Arafat may have taken some time to accept, but by now he accepted. Doesn't help much, though, given ... ... the number of Palestines organized in more radical organizations than PA ... the current Israeli administration "Especially Yasser (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) Hiroshima, as one of the largest Japanese harbours and railway junctions, probably has been one. The question in this case is more: Couldn't the US have waited to see how the Soviet strike against Japan, started shortly before, turns out? (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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(...) How far would they travel to do that? At least not to Europe ... (...) ... because these statistics must be within the US. And of course they prove nothing about how the situation would be like with a *consistent* legislation over the *whole (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) I have flown since then. It was the same as before, yet vastly different, both at the same time in a spooky sort of way. Same terminals, same security guards at my end, but much more serious... and much less attitude from everyone involved. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | not sure what to call this
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Hmm... not sure if you are referring to whence resource property rights, or is it the luck factor that you are wondering about. (...) Chris has alluded to this problem in the past. Asserting labor mixin as a mechanism to getting title to previously (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) In the case of United Airlines, rather than having to face the true weight of their possible negligence in terms of security failures leading up to the disasters, they have de facto been rewarded by govt. shielding that has given them a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Freedom vs. Wellfare
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(...) That is a correct restatement of what I said, yes. There are no rights to free goods. This is a fundamental tenet of my belief system. It is not held by all americans (witness those who feel a tithe to their church is a mandatory moral (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Bouhours
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(...) So why do *you* talk so much, then? :-) Your deficiencies boggle the mind. I believe I've answered this question of yours in other posts. But I will restate it for you since you seem to insist on repeating questions ad nauseum until the answer (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
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(...) I'm comfortable with the designation of Cuba as a terrorist state, (1). That perception of mine is based mostly on my perception of their actions in the 1980s in Africa. Recently they seem to have calmed down whether because they wanted to or (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) Doubt he'll see that. Or this. I think we *both* made his kill file. (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) Yes, in fact it was (...) No bet. They would have, based on the environment they operate in. (...) Actually there have been, as it turns out. All the major US networks have been requested not to show these taped missives any more and all (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) You haven't demonstrated that to my satisfaction. (...) Minimum standards tend to become maximum standards in a regulatory environment. (...) There are other, better, mechanisms for changing this behaviour than regulations. Regulations give a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) There is no perfect scheme but I prefer some process (undefined? what our founding fathers did? something else?) to ratify some basic set of rights and then sticking to those rather than allowing 51% majorities to override them on whim. If (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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(...) I think you're better off examining statistics rather than analysing reasons, as there are just too many blind alleys to go down if you try the latter(1). But if you examine statistics that are applicable, homeowner gun ownership reduces (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) Laws, not regulations, ameliorate fundamental rights violations. If someone gets killed and an automobile is involved, there are some possibilities The auto was used as a weapon - this is murder and the law against murder is the thing to (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) Ignorance is bliss. :) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) This not true Larry. Where did I say that? I rejected the whole foolish notion - not its outcome. If I did take part, I would "abide by such an outcome". But I am not, so this is not an issue. Perhaps you could run alone: Vote 1) Larry Stays (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Freedom vs. Wellfare
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(...) I think the issue here is the fact that the state collects taxes, and uses them as *it* sees fit. In a free market, everyone would still have the right to help the abandoned child as they see fit, without the state "forcing" them to. Where (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
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Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state. This letter appeared in a UK newspaper yesterday. I just wondered if there was any truth in it. Here it is; ==+== Cuba wants justice too. In view of the government's support for United States (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | voodoo (Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered)
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Be carful Dave Larry may not like some you comments. I remeber you offer advise to him before: ==+== Larry (...) Scott This sounds almost threatening. You must be pretty thin skinned Larry. Do you keep a little black book of all of those who "no (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Bouhours
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Larry: (...) Scott: (...) Scott: (...) "Silence is a virtue in those who are deficient in understanding." Scott A (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Slur used in Libertarian fliers (was Re: Fatwah)
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(...) Hmm. Getting rid of critics by calling them names? Are you really an adult? (...) "poor judgement" which the LP supports. Scott A but is NOT indicative of being a racist any more (or less) than (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Put up - or shut up.
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(...) Where? Show me the source which you have given that back this: "I reject that even if the sanctions actually *caused* the death of even 1 child" & "The sanctions do not prevent the flow of food into the country" (...) Scott Arthur. (...) The (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: "The Propaganda War" from the Economist
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(...) What does it mean in Iraq then? Not enough money do buy a DVD player? (...) That's right say I am anti-US, when I am infact pro-truth. I thought they were UN sanction anyhow? (...) Larry. I have said this before. There is less food in the (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) I loved this line: ==+== National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice criticized Al Jazeera for the broadcast, on the grounds that, among other things, it could be used to send coded messages to terrorist "sleepers" in the United States and (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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I like this. I may get a t-shirt made. :) (...) I live in a tiny little country called Scotland. The time differnce between my lovely little land and you great hulk mass (I'm talking about the USA, not you :) ) means that most of the posting goes (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Ok, show me where I have lied?
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(...) Ok, show me where I have lied? Not where I have gotten it wrong. Not where I have overreacted. Show me where I have lied. Scott A (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) The fact is Larry a lot of people died because of that action. I have seen so credible report which supports it. But still you pour cold water on it, but yet you are willing to accept the word of a politician on similar issues. Scott A (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Freedom vs. Wellfare
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(...) Please don't move it to email, Horst. Your contributions have been extremely well thought out and useful and you are now getting to a point that I have been looking for a reasonable way to raise to hear Larry's 'total free market' view on. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Freedom vs. Wellfare
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Hello Larry, hello everybody, (...) So the goods you need to be kept alive (in a decent way, I would add) are not rights? What value does the right to live have, then, if it is OK for others to just let me starve, without any fault on my side (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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Hello Larry, (...) No, you're trying to construct the contradiction, by requiring that the result of a regulation must be perfect. Requiring a license does improve safety (though not perfectly). True, it just sets a minimum standard [1]. This is at (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) But who, then, decides what those rights should be. You? Me? Thinking over it, I would prefer the second ;-) :wq Horst (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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Hello, (...) Point missed. What I just say is this: Human interaction is complex, and it has been sufficiently proven that complex systems don't react to a single stimulus with a single, easily predictable response. In other words, simplistic (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) But that's not what I meant. I was talking about the risk that fundamental rights will be violated, like when someone gets killed. And I do believe that driver's licenses, while they certainly cannot eliminate the risk, still do a good job of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Something slightly lighter?
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(...) That's...wow. I'm not sure if that's funny or not. I mean, the entire situation is bizarre, but I find it absolutely uproarious that in this exultation of an avowed enemy of the American way of life, one of *the* cultural icons of Western (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) Here's a bit more. (URL) draw the conclusion that Powell may be overreacting a bit, and I tend to agree. (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Something slightly lighter?
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Evil Bert?(1) (URL) Street has always stood for mutual respect and understanding," a spokeswoman said. "We’re outraged that our characters would be used in this unfortunate and distasteful manner. This is not at all humorous.The people responsible (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Forget "Dog Bites Man" or "Man Bites Dog"...
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Found this in todays wire reports. Thought it was funny. Figured I'd share. So there. BTW, XPD to OTD 'cause it seems someone is always talking about animal rights or gun control or violence or the man bites dog argument...so you'd better look (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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(...) Well...it ain't all that big of a trick to import the guns into Ontario from NY either...but, that _still_ doesn't make the crime rate with firearms in Ontario all that high in comparison to most major US areas. Look at a US city with a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) anyway. I agree Larry. It was just a quip to go with the dig about M$ further down. Though M$ has had (at least temporarily) an effective monopoly on PC operating systems, it *was* only temporary, and was most likely aided along the way (at (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Nation building
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I've been thinking about this a bit. Longtime readers know my distaste for the very term. Dubya doesn't like it either. But if you go back to some of the various stuff that has been posted... (Newt's bit. Stuff about what was done in conquered (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Justifying Barbarism? (was: More on Palestine)
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(...) This made me think a bit about the question: Can barbaric acts (whether terrorism or not) be justified if a. The intended overall result[1] is positive (eg. save lives, reduce poverty), and b. The actual overall result is positive, even if (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) With government assistance. Free market corporations can erect no such barriers. Not effective ones, anyway. QED (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) ...or corporations... (...) Thats vi please. VI will generally result in sh: VI: not found or something similar. As will EMACS (except if you use some inferior operating system, sold by some corporate monopoly 8?) Oh, OK, you could create a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) Or they can rent from a place which allows installation of satellite dishes. I see several in my apartment complex (and for some folks, they even seem to be easy to install, they're bolted to the folks 2nd floor deck railing). As Larry has (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) Wow, I don't think I would have ever expected to see something like this come out of Newt. With a slightly quick reading, I don't see anything in that which I disagree with. I think we are seeing the power of the US really coming out. We have (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) Ah-- a good summary point I'd missed. Perhaps a "Plays Well" category in which Larry gets a rather low score. Each, actually, but perhaps moreso Larry as he's often been the one to bring issues like this into the limelight as actual topics of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) I'd disagree on this one. I'd say his largest fault is his tendency to attack a person's stature rather than defend his position or respond to theirs. The title of this sub-thread is a case in point. He has done the same to others and me. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) ! Now you are giving me ideas... hee hee hee... THAT would be nice. I wonder who would be the best card... OTOH, I am *deep* down the scale! :-P (XFUT off-topic-fun) Pedro (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) You do not know the temptation I resisted in heading that post with something along the lines of "Brand new O-T-Debator cards! Collect them all! Trade 'em with your friends! Or compete head-to-head on your own non-Lego topics! Coming soon, how (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) (snipped) (...) (snipped) ROTFL! They were almost reduced to the status of "Pokemon" playing cards! Anyway, I do not know these two guys long enough to make such a deep analysis of their debating skills, so I won't. However, I partially agree (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) Yes, and once you add annoying twits to your Kill filter, this group is a much nicer read. I've had a much nicer time in this group since adding someone to my Kill filter last week. (...) Unfortunately, the "entertainment" often sinks to the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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(...) <snip> Nice analysis, Dave. Indeed, I wouldn't want any of the options listed; my preference is for each to ignore the other, but that's beyond my power (and apparantly, their power). Lacking my favorite choice, I have pretty much chosen to (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. This piece by Gingrich touches on this (and other points you make). (URL) is quite thoughtful. I had no idea he could think this clearly. Why I am reading the NR so much lately I cannot say, exactly, but I wonder. I found Principle 8 (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lack of clear, tangible objectives that have been communicated. There's been too much rhetoric issued from the White House. A War to eradicate Terror is just another War on Drugs - an impossible, wasted effort. Our primary goal should be to (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I doubt most o-t-debators would choose seriously from any of the above options other than the 3rd, though maybe that's just me. I can't see actually wanting to ban either of you based on your previous content. A poll to the first set of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GL00zG.IEF@lugnet.com... (...) Lighten up. I should have put a smiley on it Oh, and my vote is no one should be banned. No one forces anyone to read or reply to what is posted here. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's some more for you to laugh at (and others to think about). (URL) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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an important PS... (...) impoverishment != 500,000 children starving. (...) So do I. *some impoverishment*, after all was the *point* of the sanctions. My beef with them is that they're not impoverishing the *right things* (his palaces and his (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "hit a nerve"?? Hardly. You get on my nerves, it is true, and your allegations have precipitated a call for action on my part. (...) I can see why you'd ask this question since you have so little acquaintance with it, but I can assure you, the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've given multiple cites. Who are you to question me this way? What informs your opinion of anything for that matter? Foamer. (...) No change of heart. (...) Still feel that way. (...) Still feel that way. (...) Let's review. It is possible (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hear, hear! Bionicle has very little to do with LEGO, but it's granted its own on-topic posting group. OT.Debate need not be read by anyone not wishing to do so. Dave! (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I reminded readers it was a hunch, then gave my justification for my hunch, but you are still not satisfied. Whatever. Are we going to replay the statistics/hunch argument again but with even less basis? You have more fun bludgeoning than (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The argument has been made in the past that having .debate as a place to send off topic debates is good for the rest of LUGNET. If you want to discuss LEGO, do so. Nothing is stopping you, nothing is making you post here, and posts here do not (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GKzyrx.D4z@lugnet.com... (...) What about a fight to the death? Via webcam of course. Or better still Ban lugnet.off-topic.debate, so we can get back to discussing Lego. regards (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Despicable. But not quite the same as broadly hinting that journalists would be murdered if they tried to report on something factual. (not opinion, mind you, but fact) So ya, it's way worse what the PA is doing. Doesn't mean the US shouldn't (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I appear to have hit a nerve. Does the truth hurt so much? Scott A (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry that was your opinion before the 10th October (the date on the text). What informed your opinion before then? Why the sudden change of heart in justifying yourself? Lets look again at your words: ==+== I reject that the sanctions are the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That proves he's not particularly libertarian, then. Small parties do sometimes have to take what they can get at local levels but I'd support his ouster. Unfortunately these sorts of organizational issues give ammo to foamers drawing (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nothing tangible then? (...) Don't be a fool. The truth is not about a popularity contest. Scott A (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) De facto or de jure? My experience has been that it is almost always de jure. <snip true (I have them too) account of horrific service and product offering> (...) No. Sans barriers to entry there are no natural monopolies. You have a (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read for comprehension, Scott. Not saying any such thing. Dan is saying that all countries are equally bad. I just gave an example of a randomly selected country (just like I did the last time I asked Dan) that I think is less bad than Syria. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My basis for "not being convinced that we didn't get snookered" is lingering doubt that maybe, just maybe, bin Laden actually *was* the owner or part owner of that plant through some twisted chain, whether or not it was completely harmless or (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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