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Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:33:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes:
> > Hello Larry,
> >
> > > I believe you are caught in a contradiction, you have conceded that the
> > > licensing act does nothing to improve safety and that it is a personal
> > > responsibility issue and that licenses therefore are useless yet you still
> > > cling to the state and its false protective cloak.
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> > No, you're trying to construct the contradiction, by requiring that the
> > result of a regulation must be perfect.
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> > Requiring a license does improve safety (though not perfectly).
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> You haven't demonstrated that to my satisfaction.
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> > True, it
> > just sets a minimum standard [1].
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> Minimum standards tend to become maximum standards in a regulatory environment.
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> > This is at least sensible, because some
> > people don't exercise personal responsibility in the way they should.
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> There are other, better, mechanisms for changing this behaviour than
> regulations. Regulations give a shield to hide behind when things go awry...
> "but our security process complied with federal regulation" that isn't there
> under Tort law.
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> If the president of Delta Airlines knew that his malfeasance might result in
> the entire airline going bankrupt, loss of his personal fortune, and his
> incarceration in jail (all possible under strict liability, not possible in
> our current shielded system) his actions would be much much different, to
> our great benefit. He's not stupid.
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> ++Lar
In the case of United Airlines, rather than having to face the true weight of
their possible negligence in terms of security failures leading up to the
disasters, they have de facto been rewarded by govt. shielding that has given
them a monetary bail-out as stipend for lost revenue that may in fact partly
resulted from their own negligence. I see very little accountability required
of the airlines.
james, who could be wrong, since he hasn't flown since before 9/11.
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| (...) I have flown since then. It was the same as before, yet vastly different, both at the same time in a spooky sort of way. Same terminals, same security guards at my end, but much more serious... and much less attitude from everyone involved. (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You haven't demonstrated that to my satisfaction. (...) Minimum standards tend to become maximum standards in a regulatory environment. (...) There are other, better, mechanisms for changing this behaviour than regulations. Regulations give a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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