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Re: ScottFroth(tm) answered
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:05:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
(snipped)
> Larry
>
> Debating skill: 9
> Cluelessness: 2
> Stubbornness: 6
> Openness: 7
> Humility: 2
> Annoying: 6
>
> Notes:
> Larry seems to usually have a good grip on what his position is, and is able
> to back up his point sufficiently well. When he doesn't have a firm grip on
> his position, he's occasionally been known to fluctuate, and typically
> doesn't back his position up well-- only because these times are when basic
> philosophic principles are at stake. The bonus to Larry is that he is fairly
> open to changing his mind-- it just doesn't happen much if at all.
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> The largest fault of Larry's is probably his occasionally quick-to-judge
> attitude towards points he feels he's already addressed. Sometimes Scott
> (for example) will have a perfectly valid point and Larry will gloss over it
> calling it a non-issue without giving it a 2nd thought. It doesn't happen
> often, but it happens.
>
> He's also got an ego. He treads on ground confident that he's done the best
> possible job of defending it that there can ever be, which often isn't the
> case. However, he does have reason to think so. As far as debating goes,
> there aren't many who can get Larry to the itchy point. Most of his
> convictions stand firm and can be well backed up.
>
> ------------------
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> Scott
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> Debating skill: 4
> Cluelessness: 3
> Stubbornness: 9
> Openness: 4
> Humility: 5
> Annoying: 8
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> Notes:
> Scott's generally got some work to do on debating form. This is quite
> possibly his largest issue. He seems to take o-t-debate as a very fast-paced
> forum, paying little time towards each reply. Replies are often quickly put
> out, with little organization or thought involved. They do not seem to
> follow the general debating format wherein one would state one's
> assumptions, the problems with the proposed theory, then propose a new
> theory, admitting any weaknesses it had.
>
> But don't assume too quickly. Scott often has a point, even though it's not
> stated well. It's merely that he doesn't put the time/effort into voicing
> it. When forced (upon occasion), Scott has proven that he is fully capable
> of being less clueless, more open, and more insightful.
>
> He also suffers from stubbornness. He doesn't let an issue drop very easily,
> and often prods and prods and prods until a response is given. Further, when
> cornered, he doesn't like admitting his faults. The one upshot to Scott over
> Larry is that Scott is typically less assuming of his own position being
> "right". You'll seldom hear Scott defending his own stance, and more often
> hear him attacking others'.
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ROTFL!
They were almost reduced to the status of "Pokemon" playing cards!
Anyway, I do not know these two guys long enough to make such a deep
analysis of their debating skills, so I won't. However, I partially agree
with you due to what I have been offered to see in the last six months.
To *those two*: Peace and Love, dudes! Chill out, you are not THAT different...
;-)
Pedro
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