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Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:16:55 GMT
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Hello,
> > Also, I heard a lot of arguments so far about how the presence of guns
> > increases security, because the badies don't know who is armed and who is
> > not. However, these arguments ignore some important factors. In preparation
> > of whatever they intend to do, the badies will easily be able to arm
> > themselves beyond what they reasonably have to expect among their victims.
> > Also, they will be bit quicker shooting their victims whenever they suspect
> > one of them is reaching for a gun. So, even if you assume the number of
> > badies and their illegal actions remains constant, their impact will
> > increase.
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> Most criminals aren't stupid. Given a choice against going up against an
> armed or unarmed victim, most will logically choose the unarmed victim.
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> I sure would if I were a criminal!
Point missed. What I just say is this: Human interaction is complex, and it
has been sufficiently proven that complex systems don't react to a single
stimulus with a single, easily predictable response. In other words,
simplistic approaches like the one Larry and you presented on the guns issue
are invalid. I think, they are more motivated more by belief than by reason.
I tried to add some more factors to the reason part of the picture [1], in
order to reflect the complexity of the system better. Even though this
approach probably still is way incomplete, it is almost certainly better
than any monocausal approach like yours. And none of my arguments has
actually been refuted so far ...
Maybe it is a good idea to give an example of "impact". My guess is there
are about the same rate of gas station robberies in the US and in Germany.
But I have not heard of many deaths resulting from those, except in the US.
:wq
Horst
[1] even though I don't claim to be free of a belief on the issue ;-)
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