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Subject:	Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:04:45 GMT
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Horst Lehner wrote: > Also, I heard a lot of arguments so far about how the presence of guns > increases security, because the badies don't know who is armed and who is > not. However, these arguments ignore some important factors. In preparation > of whatever they intend to do, the badies will easily be able to arm > themselves beyond what they reasonably have to expect among their victims. > Also, they will be bit quicker shooting their victims whenever they suspect > one of them is reaching for a gun. So, even if you assume the number of > badies and their illegal actions remains constant, their impact will > increase. Most criminals aren't stupid. Given a choice against going up against an armed or unarmed victim, most will logically choose the unarmed victim. I sure would if I were a criminal! -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Sun Microsystems Customer Service | iPlanet Support - http://www.iplanet.com/support/ | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes: (snipped) (...) Most criminals aren't psychic, either. So how can they tell if someone is armed or not? They just try their luck. If the victim is not armed, fine; if it is, too bad, one person will (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
Hello, (...) Point missed. What I just say is this: Human interaction is complex, and it has been sufficiently proven that complex systems don't react to a single stimulus with a single, easily predictable response. In other words, simplistic (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
Hello Chris, (...) But wouldn't things be better when other means of expression are easier to get than arms? Or, still better than nothing, vice versa, when arms are harder to get? Of course, I don't want to advocate to NOT also tackle the root (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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