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Re: Ldglite bug report (Was: Portable Ldraw system)
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Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:22:04 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Don Heyse writes:
> Use -n2 to render each part in the backbuffer, -n4 does the whole
> model. Also the backbuffer is retained for faster refreshes on window
> expose events. I haven't gotten this to work in LEDIT mode yet
> though.
Yes! Awesome. Drawing time seems to be a little slower, I don't have any
numbers for that though. But the refresh is ligntning fast.
Hmm, the menu seems to be more responsive too.
> What's -cg? I'm gonna assume you mean -ccX,Y,Z.
You sure? Lemme go double-check the docs...
Oh my. I seem to have this large red welt on my forehead roughly the same
size and shape as my hand. Funny, I don't remember getting it...
I think I've been using -cg in l3p so long that I became dyslexic when
reading the l3p-like camera commands in ldglite-readme.txt... :-,
> Anyhow, it's been a
> while, but I think it's X,Y,Z in opengl world coordinates (Which I think
> are like ldraw world coords except the Y direction is reversed) Some
> effects like distance from the camera aren't visible in orthographic
> mode. Try -J for perspective mode. I think the default camera position
> is 0,0,1000 so using -cc0,500,1000 will be looking at the model more
> from above. Using -cc0,250,500 will be looking from the same angle,
> but closer in perspective mode.
Ok, I got it now, thanks. :-, Just curious, what is the expected behavior
when -cc and -a are specified together? Is one supposed to cancel the other
out, or are they completely unrelated?
> I'm currently reworking much of the camera code while working on the
> quake style navigation for moving and aiming the camera interactivly.
> http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/?n=7515
> So now's the time to make suggestions.
One thing I've noticed is that while spin mode drawing is very responsive,
there's not enough of a delay between when you stop moving the model and
when the higher-quality redraw begins. What would be great is a way to
lengthen this pause, or perhaps a hotkey to say "draw in spin mode until I
say otherwise".
> Where's your task bar, at the top of the screen? What are you some
> kind of nut? ;-)
Why, now that you ask, well yes! :-,
> I'll see what I can do, but I'm running out of
> letters to use on the command line, and I don't think I can predict
> where the task bar (or docking station or whatever) is gonna be. I
> don't particularly like the window popping up in the exact top left
> corner either, but I think defaulting to the center of the screen
> would irritate me even more. How about something like +200,100
> on the command line? Give that a try in the beta version.
I've seen -g (geometry) used in various apps for this. Another possibility
is to throw it into a 4-parameter -v option, e.g. -vleft,top,right,bottom
> Use -fw for that. That's an old ldlite option so it may not be in the
> readme.txt file. I guess I should add a section in the readme file
> that covers all the ldlite compatible commandline options.
Neato, that looks cool too, and I think I'll be using that in something! :-,
But what I was looking at was wireframe with the hidden lines removed (as if
all surfaces were the same color as the background?)
Speaking of lines, when I use -W20 the ends of each line segment is capped
by a square which is the same color as the line but 2 or 3 times as wide.
The net result is that pieces with many line segments (curves for example)
have a very "spiky" look. Is there any way to smooth these out?
I've uploaded a sample to my server: http://www.sproat.us/l3glite-test.png
My l3glite command line: l3glite -v640,480 -u6400,4800 -i1 -fh -W20 -q -l3
-s13 -o-500,1500 -z-1000 -a1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1 model.dat
Cheers,
- jsproat
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| (...) I try to think of the -a as a rotation matrix for the model, whereas the -cc stuff is a manipulation of the view matrix. Unfortunately the LDRAW default -a matrix "squishes" the model as if it were a view matrix. I guess this is because the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| (...) I did some work on the other solution, rendering in the background. There's a beta of this here: (URL) -n2 to render each part in the backbuffer, -n4 does the whole model. Also the backbuffer is retained for faster refreshes on window expose (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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