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  Re: drawbridge
 
(...) I hope my bridge design spreadsheet worked okay for you. Your trusses look good! Nice work. Very nice! (...) I've hit a similar problem in planning out a crane. I've contemplated using two separate winches to lift the main hoist, but just like (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: drawbridge
 
Very nice. We had a lift bridge in our last display as well, but it couldn't run very many times before the crawlers would de-synch. This is the best pictures of our new ones that I have: (URL) like it because it looks like Ross Neal is pushing the (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lego track cleaner
 
Gee, this sound a lot like 2 idea I have for something similar. I'll upload a page with another kind of equipment of this type. Sonnich www.hot.ee/sonnich/lego/ (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lego track cleaner
 
(...) This sounds interesting and fun. (...) Any chance of a picture soon? (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: drawbridge
 
(...) And they still get added. I think there are something faulty with the configuration of your news reader. It seems to add a lot of HTML or other code to translate some carachters. Best regards, /Tobbe (URL) SPAM when e-mailing) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: drawbridge
 
(...) Regarding the bridge: How do you disconnect the rail when it's time to raise the bridge? That was a very odd way to raise it BTW, I've never seen that before (but then again I don't have a fetich towards bridges as of yet). And you have waaay (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lego track cleaner
 
In lugnet.trains, Steven House writes: any other contraptions out there? Yes, I built a machine that is all battery powered. It consists of a double bogie (truck) vehicle which carries the battery box. Underneath is a spinning nylon bristle brush (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lego track cleaner
 
(...) Very cool, and very bright ... think I might modify mine to include a cloth based second pass ... any other contraptions out there? (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Cleaning the track regularly is still a good thing, as long as it's done right. I remember the instructions for my brother's slotless racetrack set specifically said that if you noticed a reduction in speed or performance, you should swab all (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) I already do offer DCC conversions, if you want to Email me for details... James Powell (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lego track cleaner
 
(...) Bert Waters (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) <snip> (...) Wait! Why stick with human labour? Last time I checked, you could buy a guinea pig for about $A12, and lettuces for $A0.99 each. You tie a lettuce leaf to the back of your train, dip your guinea pig in your prefered cleaning (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) And now we come full circle. Long time readers of this group will recall that I've opined against cleaning track at all in the past. :-) What delicious confusion. (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Perhaps you could buy three track cleaning cars and solve the problem in one pass? ;-) Or maybe the manufacturer could make a triple rollered track cleaner? I know I can buy safety razors with three blades, so it is not without precedent! (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Speaking as someone who makes a living off of working with ABS, I though I should point out that long-term use of citrus-based cleaners will cause damage to ABS. Goo-Gone has a relatively low acid content, so it's less harmful than some (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Lego track cleaner
 
Here is a lego track cleaner unit that Gary Quinlan created for our display. The cleaning unit is a cleaving cloth wrapped around a couple of weight bricks. it works great and with a run or 2 over the track great traction and shinney track is (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) <snicker> ;) <snip> (...) If it were me, I don't think I'd use Goo Gone.. while the Centerline site claims it doesn't leave a residue, I've read on an indie model railroader's site that it does. I might just stick with isopropyl alcohol.. (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) If he's dumb enough meet all of your conditions, I'll bet he *will* still be in high school:-) Reminds me of a quotation from a famous, long-term collegian: "Seven years of college down the drain" JOHN (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Good point. But see Todd's post after yours. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. If it does, does that change your answer? (...) I don't need my track cleaned for 21 hours straight, though. I just need it cleaned. MichLTC layouts have been (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Aw, man, but it's all about the coolness factor! Why do something by hand that can be done by a machine? Even if it's more work or costs more money. :) I thought it looked pretty spiffy zipping around the track*. And look how much dirt it (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) whether (...) Everyone is talking about the inside or side of the rails as if that is the important area to clean. Take a piece of straight track and place a train motor on top of it. Hold it up to a light source so as to backlight where the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
Fine. So we are all agreed track cleaning is a problem and third-party products are great. Personally I think what we need from a third party is track, DCC and lighting. Thats still leaves the chore of cleaning. My track cleaner is at (URL) uses a (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  LUCNY Finger Lakes Train show pics
 
A fun time was had by all; (URL) a look when they become publicly viewable. JB (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.lucny) ! 
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) I can't possibly see how your original post was harsh, condescending or dismissive. You're just stating your opinion and you should. The only person who could be possibly offended is Centerline, and at that, you're entitled to your opinion (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Manzius (Picard) Train uses Jango Canopy
 
Check out this Jango Fett canopy train by Christian Manzius (PICARD): (URL) Mathis (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: drawbridge
 
(...) yes thank you for fixing the link. some how some extra characters got added in to the link. i will be showing this at a talent show on may 10th. i just finished it yesterday. it was such a nice day outside and i don't really have a flat (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: drawbridge
 
(...) or did you work from memory or? Did you have any challenges in keeping the two motors sychronized? That's been a bugaboo for others, that one side or the other raises a bit too fast and skews things. I think this is my fave shot: (URL) thanks (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: drawbridge
 
(...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
Zonker still can't post but is reading the thread with interest... he sent me this (reproduced in it's entiriety) and asked me to post it. ___...___ As a follow-up to my first posting (and hoping to answer a few questions raised by other posters), (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  drawbridge
 
hi everyone, a friend asked me to build a drawbridge for a train display. so this is what i came up with: (URL) is loosely based on the Hawthorne Bridge in Portland Oregon: (URL) are 3 spans. each span is 96 studs long. the center section lift is (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.trains) ! 
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Terry..... You.........Harsh......... ;-) Go figure......:-D Sharkey (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
I have to agree with Larry here in that the announcement itself is far more important than the product itself. It shows that an outside company has noticed the swell in activity around "L-Gauge" trains and they feel there is room in the marketplace (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) too (...) <grin> Yes, it does... But typically it's "elbow grease". :-) Mark (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
My first post. after re-reading it, sounds a bit too harsh. What I meant to say is that I don't, personnally, see the use of the cleaner for personnal uses. But as I said, maybe it didn't come out right, I wish good luck to the people who created (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) "you" in this context being Centerline(tm) (1), not Zonker (or any of the posters to this thread). What is most significant about this is that Centerline decided to offer this, not (believe it or not) whether it actually works or is a good (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) That would be my expectation too. Unless the pad is fuzzy enough to get at the sides a bit? Or the fluid picked up by successive flanges works its way down to the edges? The original report says they saw an improvement in performance. Maybe (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) You haven't tried to clean a club layout at a train show. A double-loop, 15'x 30' layout is going to be over 180 running feet of track. Actually, since you have to do each rail separately, it's closer to 360 feet of track. That's not including (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Agreed! Having third party LEGO support products is an excellent step forward in the hobby of electric LEGO trains. The fact that this product exists is remarkable news! <snip> (...) Well, from personal experience in our club, I can tell you (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) But wouldn't a piece of clothing and water-soap do the trick? 104$ for a gadget that will probably take more time cleaning the track than what you'd take to wide it clean with a cloth, it seems expansive to me. Furthemore, isn't it a waste of (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
It's true the power comes from the inside top corner of the rail, but if you look closer at the wheels on your train motor, you'll see that there is a rubber O-ring which makes contact with the *top* of the rail. I think most of the tractive force (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) Oh well, at least neither of us will be flamed alone! But I reckon that your spell check time was wasted: "...except make the track shinny" Shinny? ;-) Cheers Richie (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
Kinda funny that we both wrote the same thing at the same time isn’t it. Too bad spell check slowed me down. =) OnDrew (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
I hate to get on someone’s bad side right away but isn’t this track cleaner cleaning the wrong part of the track? Unlike all other scales of trains Lego trains get the power from the inside part of the rail. So basically this track cleaner isn’t (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
(...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> As an occasional lurker in .trains and owner of only 4.5V trains myself, my knowledge of 9V trains is limited, so perhaps someone could correct me if I'm misunderstanding (or misremembering) ... I thought that (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  First Third Party product for the LEGO(r) Trains market?
 
Pretty exciting news! This is posted on behalf of BayLTC's David (Zonker) Harris, with his permission (and request to so post), who related the following to me: - - - - My home machine has lost the cookie to post to LUGNET, and Todd's on a bus to (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org) ! 
 
  Re: G.M.L.T.C. to display at "Day Out With Thomas™" event
 
(...) Non-LEGO LED lighting-- mainly in subterrarean areas where regular LEGO lighting is too weak to be effective. John (2, not 1) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: G.M.L.T.C. to display at "Day Out With Thomas™" event
 
What's the 3V for? (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
(...) They are sets #2126 "Train Cars" #2585 "Promotional set from LEGO Loco Software Package" and #3225 "Classic Train". My guess is that Jeroen owns these sets. With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen. (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: G.M.L.T.C. to display at "Day Out With Thomas™" event
 
(...) As usual, we're set up in a great location right inside the main museum entrance. But this time, we've got a LOT of competition for kid's attention! Crowds were busy but not unmanagable, a lot like a normal train show for us. But they're (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  PNLTC OCC Big Bash Gallery Is Up
 
We at the Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club have posted the gallery for our layout at the Big Bash opening celebration for the newly expanded Oregon Convention Center, April 17-19, 2003. Stop by and check out the great display including Jeremy (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.town, lugnet.loc.us.or.por, lugnet.loc.us.or)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
Cool. Any chance of the *.dat file for that freight train? (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
(...) Well they oughta be, those are some of the finest models ever done anywhere... Or so I hear. :-) I oughta talk about lawyers now, but na... if TLC makes those into official models I'll be happy as the next guy, they have a lot of choice hard (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
(...) Just remember, don't piss me off ;-) (URL) me, they look like two renderings of the same thing, with the lighting changed) -Tim (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HDwzC2.BKt@lugnet.com... (...) Think you need to adjust your laser-beam eyes ;-) Jeroen (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HDwyFz.8sM@lugnet.com... (...) chuckling. (...) Nah, exchanged them for some DAT's I had on my PC by some guy from Milton Trains Something... They very happy with them ;-) Jeroen (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
(...) job of assembling the model just from box art photos! -Tim (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Jeroen Has New Trains
 
(...) hehe. some of us spotted this a bit sooner and circulated it, to much chuckling. I gotta say that in this one: (URL) looks positively maniacal, as if he'd sold his soul to get these. Well, maybe he did. (if "making a train poster" == "selling (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Jeroen Has New Trains
 
Looks like someone worked hard and deserved a present...or two! See happy Jeroen with 2003 New Trains: High-Speed Passenger and Freight. He's already got a draft of the freight train and a preview of a new POV-Ray rendering setting. (URL) think we (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The very first Lego Train set 111 in cellophane seeks collector
 
(...) about their auction in market.auction and then post a link to the post... (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The very first Lego Train set 111 in cellophane seeks collector
 
(...) I assume shelfWARE could very well be cellophane or other packaging intended for use of storing items on a shelf, but shelfWEAR is dents, nicks, scratches, marks, etc. on the box from being on the shelf... -Rob (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The very first Lego Train set 111 in cellophane seeks collector
 
My thought was to act as discreetly as possible, without leaving a direct link. But I now guess I also should give the link: (URL) regards Christian Kloumann "Christian" <ck@ifi.uio.no> wrote in message news:HDvBzI.23xL@lugnet.com... (...) one. (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The very first Lego Train set 111 in cellophane seeks collector
 
(...) I bought it from a collector some years ago. (...) Yes, it is a very long time for a LEGO-set. I was 2 years old when it was made :-) For all I know this one could be the last sealed one left. (...) This set has its original shelfwear. Maybe (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The very first Lego Train set 111 in cellophane seeks collector
 
Just where did you find such a set???? I can understand that set are stored for some time, but storing it for 37 years? Secondly, I'd expect it to have shelfwaer and so... Christian <ck@ifi.uio.no> wrote in message news:HDvBzI.23xL@lugnet.com... (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  G.M.L.T.C. to display at "Day Out With Thomas™" event
 
The Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (www.gmltc.org) is pleased to announce we will be displaying our LEGO train layout at the "Day Out With Thomas™" event at the Minnesota Transportation Museum's Jackson Street Roundhouse in St. Paul, MN from April (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.mn, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
 
  The very first Lego Train set 111 in cellophane seeks collector
 
This group is reserved for Lego train enthusiasts. And there are other groups for market. But this is a very rare item, and there might be one person here that have been looking for a unique opportunity to add this item to his/her collection. I have (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) It's not just emotional - it's financial. Not getting at Larry, but there's an example of someone who's got tons of stuff. On a smaller layout, like we do with the NBLTC, every single thing on the layout is a one-off. My four GWR carriages, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
I don't worry so much about getting it back together as much as I worry about finding all the pieces again. Nothing worst than having to crawl around the floor of a crowded convention center looking for pieces. I prefer to be able to relax and enjoy (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) ohh! I need one that explodes on contact...but it has to do it in a head on collision, and be easy to put back together after. (...) There are some of my designs that I don't like to see smashing into the floor, but most of my stuff has been (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) Within the last two weeks, IIRC, and it is indeed nifty. See admin.general for more if you're interested... the question is off-topic for trains.org (grin). (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
On a completely different note when did Todd start adding random spam phrases to our emails automatically? Cool.... -J3 (I am unorganized and choose to reply to myself instead of starting a new thread. No table manners either...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) It's been a very long time since you've worked with our modules if you think that has any impact on rebuilding. *grin* We changed the water level at one show and I completely reworked the town for this show. Landscape changes quite easily and (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) True. If it's a oneoff, that is... I hardly ever display oneoffs, most of what I display is either commercial production work (mine from MTW, or others), or one of multiple copies, or if I really care, I capture it in LDraw. My bullet train is (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) I'm not trying to minimize anyone's investment in time, material, or emotional in their layouts. My generalization (and it definitely is that) is that the closer a model is to prototypical, the more fragile details it has, the more "perfect" (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) I don't know if it is fair to make generalizations about the relative levels of emotional investment between clubs, but I doubt that anyone who brings a MOC out into public for display has less than an exceptionally high emotional attachment (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: help required 12v train set
 
Hello Paul, Look here: (URL) This one picture should tell you all you need. I am of course assuming you have the cable that is needed to connect the transformer and the track. Greetings Horst (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: help required 12v train set
 
(...) Take a peek at the instructions for the controller, 7864: (URL) assumes of course you have the controller and a way to plug it in (if you're in the US, you will need a step up transformer). Frank (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  help required 12v train set
 
hi - i have just purchased a 7740 set on ebay and would like to get this up and running. The instructions just seem to show hoow the train is constructed and don't show anything about hoew this connected up. is there an idots guide on how to hook up (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
With the NGLTC kids area we too removed the train elements from the play tables. When we had the train parts on the table there was always some bigger kid that would hog the engine and controller, then we'd have send someone over to police the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
Good points John. I recall the first time I got KRR duty and I nearly pulled my hair out! And that same reaction came from most of us. I think we were a little (read REALLY) uptight that the trains elements might get broken etc. But after a while we (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
(...) We'd *love* to be able to do that, but unfortunately our membership is limited to the point where we just don't get enough people to staff and oversee a 'play area'. <sigh> Since many of us are current or former LEGO employees, we take the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
Since our first show at GATS we have had a kids RR (KRR) play area attached to the main layout so they feel a part of it. We hated that when you'd go to a GATS you couldn't touch anything, even if your an adult in some cases! At the KRR there is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
(...) You know that 'Oh No!' second, when you realized you did something wrong, and yet "The Event" happened and there's no going back. Kinda like right after I think I've backed up all my info, and proceed to restore the original image on my (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lner A4
 
(...) I like how the front black tiles slope in multi-panel-angles. Looks smooth and has a nice curve. Lots to appreciate in your design solutions! later, James Mathis (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
Hey, nifty stuff. Thanks for sharing! But since we're sharing table info, and not discussing the merits of an additional group, do you think it might be possible to trim admin.suggestions from the groups list? FUT just trains... (...) <snip> (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
(...) That building is absolutely beautiful. I love the curves of the two parts at the end, and the glass towers look really cool. Adrian -- (URL) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
We used roadplates under the rails in the town because the light rail system that runs through and around Portland does run down the streets in some areas. We tried to model the Convnetion Center scene as closely as possible and the MAX line runs (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
Just to be really clear Jeremy Rear built the OR Convention Center all by himself! A couple of us offered some critiques here and there during the design phase, but that was a solo effort! To expand on Frank's comment, it took four of us to come up (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
(...) Just to clarify things, the huge building is a model of the Oregon Convention Center, the venue for the show. They were celebrating the opening of an expansion that doubled the size (the new section is the half with the "tiara" as opposed to (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
In lugnet.trains, Ben Fleskes writes: <snip> (...) I built these modules this weekend-- (URL) based on the PNLTC module design--very nice by the way--many kudos to whoever came up with that particular concept first! Anyway, rtlToronto got hold of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
(...) That large building is very impressive, especially the rounded section. And that seaside cliff is tremendous too. Lots of wonderful things to see - too many to comment on them all. Just one question, why did you use roadplates under the rails (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
Very, very impressive PNLTC! Brian Stokes SCLTC (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
(...) seaside village (with 12V train in mountain... that's gotta be Frank's handiwork!!). I see Frank snuck some Pirate ships in. Nice trees on that mountain, gonna have to crib some of that thinking for mine. Who did that mountain? I think the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)  
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
I've been bouncing table designs around for a while and two criteria seem to emerging in my mind as more important than I've previously given weight to. 1) Durability. and 2) The ability to adjust height On Durability. My first tables are over six (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
I think it depends alot on what slant your train club takes. The train clubs that are all about the prototypical designs I think have more emotionally invested in their designs and display mainly for other train modelers. Since I can't even begin to (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: PNLTC Layout
 
(...) Great show guys! I would like to have been able to be there to see it first hand! Kudos to Jerem for the Convention Center! Tasty building:-) So many things to comment on-- what with the way digital cameras butcher the color blue, people (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
(...) Dork. [1] JOHN [1] That one may well be T-shirt worthy... (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
 
  Re: Lner A4
 
(...) Lewis, Wow! A very challenging train to model with excellent results. Bob (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Crowd Control (was: Train Layout Tables)
 
In lugnet.trains, Thomas Stangl writes: <snip1> (...) <snip2> Shudder? Why do you say that? The GMLTC has been doing that for years, and we've only had a couple of problems in all those shows. We don't use ropes, we don't have plexi -- if kids want (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
(...) 1. They are quite sturdy. Possibly over sturdy for some clubs. We have a few members who tend to walk on the tables, so we have to support some 200+lbs. (250 in my case.) 2. They all bolt together, creating a very rigid structure. 3. We have (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train Layout Tables
 
(...) Trains may well be too busy... Put it in trains.org then. I'm not seeing a strong argument for a group THIS compartmentalised at this point. And I'm pretty compartmentalised! (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.suggestions)


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