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Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:36:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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I wasn’t really addressing your claim of whether we have it right or not. We
do have some things right (democracy, freedom of the press, separation of
church and state, freedom to move, freedom to leave) most of the time, and
there are some things we don’t have right (Guantanomo Bay holding pens,
Florida election procedures, motives for invading Iraq) and some things that
are a constant balancing act. But exporting even the right things is a
tricky proposition regardless - that’s where arrogance enters into it.
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The examples of the things we have right are theories-- the examples of things
we don’t are specifics in trying to apply those theories. Of course we aren’t
perfect, but we have the perfect blueprint of government-- namely Freedom and
Democracy.
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Getting back to “we’ve got it right”-- let’s not forget about what I
asserted that we got right-- namely, the embracing of Freedom and
Democracy. Yes, it is good and right to embrace those ideals, and all
nations should do the same. It was not an exclusionary statement at all--
there are many countries that have “gotten it right” by embracing those
ideals. I was not claiming superiority over all countries, merely over
those that have not chosen to adhere to those ideals. Last time I checked,
Canada embraced those ideals as well. So what exactly is your problem?
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Mine is that the people involved (Iraq) may well not want that. You really
can’t drag them to that kicking and screaming if they don’t want it. If 75%
want religious fanatics, that’s what they are going to get.
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You are advocating the tyranny of the majority. Would you advocate that here in
this country? Regardless, the majority of Iraqis want the US to assist them
to set up a free Iraq. The terrorists are a vast (criminal) minority and
should be hunted down and exterminated.
JOHN
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| (...) I wasn't really addressing your claim of whether we have it right or not. We do have some things right (democracy, freedom of the press, separation of church and state, freedom to move, freedom to leave) most of the time, and there are some (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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