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Re: Freedom is freedom.
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Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:52:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
  
   Freedom is freedom.

John,

Given your blind support for Bush,

First, I do not blindly support Bush. I am a 1 issue man, and Kerry can have my vote at any time if he ever supports The Fair Tax

   would you say this is freedom?

I would say that neither of us knows the complete circumstances in these cases and so commenting on them is pointless.

   Given your blind support for Israel,

Okay, I loyally support Israel.

   would you say this is freedom? (I would have thought that a nuclear deterrent was useless if one’s enemies did not know it existed?!).

I would say that that is a case of Israel trying to defend her freedom against disgusting treachery. I’m surprised the guy is still alive.

But even if, for the sake of argument, I conceded (which I don’t) that these were 2 cases of what? totalitarianism? what is your point? That the US and Israel aren’t perfect? You needn’t have bothered. I already have acknowledged that many times previously. Any time you want to hold up some country that values Freedom and Democracy more than we do, speak right up.

JOHN



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(...) ...and will we ever know the "complete circumstances"? I doubt it; these guys will get away with murder… as will the minority of the troops in Iraq who have abused their position (as a result of poor training). (...) Your loyalty is misplaced. (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) That can't be easy>: "The army said it did not deliberately target protesters, but a helicopter and tanks had fired warning shots to stop crowds entering a battle zone. " Scott A (20 years ago, 19-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) John, Given your blind support for Bush, would you say (URL) this> is freedom? Given your blind support for Israel, would you say (URL) this> is freedom? (I would have thought that a nuclear deterrent was useless if one’s enemies did not know (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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