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Re: Freedom is freedom.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:33:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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John,
Given your blind support for Bush,
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First, I do not blindly support Bush. I am a 1 issue man, and Kerry can have
my vote at any time if he ever supports The Fair Tax
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would you say
this is freedom?
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I would say that neither of us knows the complete circumstances in these
cases and so commenting on them is pointless.
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...and will we ever know the “complete circumstances”? I doubt it; these guys
will get away with murder… as will the minority of the troops in Iraq who have
abused their position (as a result of poor training).
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Given your blind support for Israel,
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Okay, I loyally support Israel.
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Your loyalty is misplaced. You’d do better to be loyal to freedom & justice. You
should follow my lead, and try to be a little more objective.
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would you say
this is freedom?
(I would have thought that a nuclear deterrent was useless if one’s enemies
did not know it existed?!).
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I would say that that is a case of Israel trying to defend her freedom
against disgusting treachery. I’m surprised the guy is still alive.
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No. It is about denying a man his freedom. The restrictions placed upon him
suggest he is little threat to anyone. He is guilty of nothing more than
exposing illegal activity within Israel… he is a “wistleblower”.
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But even if, for the sake of argument, I conceded (which I don’t) that these
were 2 cases of what? totalitarianism? what is your point? That the US and
Israel aren’t perfect? You needn’t have bothered. I already have
acknowledged that many times previously.
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You do more than acknowledge it; you support it!
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Any time you want to hold up some
country that values Freedom and Democracy more than we do, speak right up.
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I assume you mean only the USA; Israel’s record on Freedom and Democracy is an
utter joke (they are governed by a wanted war criminal & their human rights
record is literally shocking).
I’ll turn your question around: you show me a country that has done more do
undermine democracy and support oppression since WW2. For starters, how many
millions were killed in South East Asia?
Scott A
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| (...) First, I do not blindly support Bush. I am a 1 issue man, and Kerry can have my vote at any time if he ever supports (URL) The Fair Tax> (...) I would say that neither of us knows the complete circumstances in these cases and so commenting on (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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