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Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:21:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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To answer it as a general statement, it is a religious (or cultutal) thing,
not a racist thing. Generally speaking, religious fanatics don’t want to
be free, or at least don’t want you to be free of them. That goes for just
about any culture, any race.
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Ah, but then in the interests of diversity and multiculturalism, do we have
a responsibility to allow them to be as they are (killing, oppressing, etc),
or should we enlighten them (eg liberate and teach democracy and freedom)?
No matter how bigotted it sounds, isn’t our way (Freedom and Democracy)
really the best way for the whole world? Don’t we believe that
everyone deserves freedom? What is so wrong with fostering and
encouraging these principles?
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And we now loop back to:
Well, heck, those wacky Iraqis might vote for Islamic extremists...
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Hmmm, sounds like a case of tyranny of the majority, then? BTW, I like that
phrase “wacky Iraqi”:-)
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You got the last word wrong: substitute “converatives” for “liberals.”
Conservatives don’t want (their) businesses regulated, but they want your
personal life regulated.
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lol Not really. They just don’t want other people’s “personal life” in
their face.
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I must disagree - conservatives want to control others lives and make sure
that they conform to their own personal life (i.e. they want their
conservative personal life in everyone else’s face - “say my prayers at your
school, ya liberal regulators!”).
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Well... speaking for myself (a conservative), I must disagree. Look, I don’t
care about your personal life. Keep it personal, don’t break the law, be
responsible, and I don’t care what you do. You know that prayers are never
mandatory in schools (even the pledge isn’t). Having said that, I would prefer
prayers and religion remain out of (public) schools, but I certainly want the
values that religions such as Christianity and Judaism teach upheld at schools--
values such as respect, honesty, decency, honor, tolerance, etc. It’s not the
religion I want in everyone’s face, it’s the values they represent.
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Let’s face it, why should
Bush support the will of the people? If he did he wouldn’t be President.
:-) :-(
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He supports the will of the people who wrote our Constitution the way they
did-- you don’t seriously have a problem with that, do you?
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I’ll address this when you address what I said. :-)
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lol Well, for all intents and purposes, the “will of the people” was fairly
evenly divided. So, in effect, Bush has the green light no matter what he
does;-)
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No, he lost. He has the red light no matter what he does.
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Are you advocating more tyranny of the majority?? :-)
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And now I suppose I’m stuck having to answer your question - I’m not
convinced in his interpretation of the Constitution, nor am I convinced that
he doesn’t dance around it when it is convenient to him.
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They all do it; it’s called politics. It’s little wonder that most
politicians are lawyers. Don’t even get me started on lawyers;-)
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But I have to
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wonder: what is the record length of time for milking a joke? Surely
the teat is dry by now? :-)
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1) I wish it was a joke. 2) Okay, so my wish came true after a fashion:
Bush is a joke (if not a funny one). 3) To actually answer your
question: until he actually wins.
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But won’t his incumbency play a large role in his second victory? Spoils
begotten from illegitimate gains? :-)
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Okay, you convinced me - he never escapes the joke. :-)
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I suspected as much! :-)
JOHN
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