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Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:21:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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Well, heck, those wacky Iraqis might vote for Islamic extremists - an
eventuality that the Guy Not Elected by “Yankees” did not even consider.
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I think it is a bit offensive and even racist to believe that any human being
wouldn’t want to be free if truly given the chance.
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Must be tiring to spend so much time being offended.
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I didn’t say I took personal offense to it.
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Nevertheless, unthinkable as it may be, there are those that value among
their freedom oriented aspirations to be ‘free of American influence’.
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What an odd thing to say. What is “free of American influence”? Nothing. Are
you claiming that there are those in this world that want to eschew all the
influence of the US? Think what that would mean. lol I have been to the deserts
of the Middle East and seen Beduoin tents with their satellite dishes protruding
from them-- I highly doubt that anyone really wants to be free from American
influence (maybe in a misguided, inconsistent way). But please enlighten me who
these people are of which you speak.
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So
highly in fact, that they would be prepared to give up other freedoms or
benefits to attain it.
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So... they would give up their other freedoms (which they may or may not even
have) so that they could be free of the American influence of freedom. I
don’t get it.
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Those plucky New Zealanders gave up economic and defence benefits to
keep US nuclear powered and armed vessels out of their ports.
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There is an exception to every rule, and their situation geographically is
exceptional.
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It is always a mistake to believe that everyone thinks like you. Its a tragic
mistake to assume that they *ought* to think like you.
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Wrong. In this case WRT to the concepts of Freedom and Democracy, the world
ought to think like we do. We got it right. Sorry to upset your PC
sensibilities.
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And as I saw you complain elsewhere:
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But it is my choice to limit myself....
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Why would you not grant the Iraqis the same choice to limit themselves in the
way they choose?
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Are you saying that Saddam was the people’s choice? Are you suggesting that
they freely accepted his rule?? Please!
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There’s nothing particularly freedom loving about requiring
people to behave like the Jeep driving American public.
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Whoa, I never said anything about our behavior! Our culture is going to hell
in a Hearse, but that is another debate entirely! But I find your jab at SUVs
amusing!
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Hell no. I imagine it will go on flowing freely just as long as people look
at the unbelievable state of American foreign policy, and ask themselves how
they could possibly arrived here, how could their proud and worthy system
of government turn out such an acrid and unworthy result.
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What an unkind thing to say about the Germans, Japanese, among others!
JOHN
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) There it is--the inherent arrogance in the American system. "We got it right!" Yeah, low standards of education, addiction and seemingly perpetual addiction to fossil fuels and (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) <chuckle> That's cute. Its offensive but you're not personally offended? What are you, publicly offended? Its offensive to others, but more enlightened folks such as yourself are not offended? <chuckle some more> Really. (...) There are some (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Must be tiring to spend so much time being offended. Nevertheless, unthinkable as it may be, there are those that value among their freedom oriented aspirations to be 'free of American influence'. So highly in fact, that they would be prepared (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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