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Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:33:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Wrong. In this case WRT to the concepts of Freedom and Democracy, the world
ought to think like we do. We got it right. Sorry to upset your PC
sensibilities.
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There it is--the inherent arrogance in the American system. “We got it
right!”
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It’s not arrogance-- it’s pride. I am proud that my country embraces Freedom
and Democracy. We didn’t invent those ideas-- we just embrace them.
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Yeah, low standards of education, addiction and seemingly perpetual addiction
to fossil fuels and the ‘blind eye’ to the ramifications thereof...
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Specious.
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Understand that I have much respect for my southern neighbours--America has
many great attributes and wonderfulness.
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Yeah, and there is much sick and wrong with our culture. There is nothing
wrong with embracing Freedom and Democracy.
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But the flip-side is the inherent arrogance that I’ve personally seen--“we got
it right (so why aren’t you doing what we do?)”
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Can you provide a reason why some country should not embrace Freedom and
Democracy?
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It’s like that quotation from ‘Blues Brothers”--“Oh we have both kinds of
music--country *and* western” as if there are no other kinds of music.
Well, there’s thins thing called harmony. The ‘melting pot’ mentality
produces monotony--“Prepare to be assimilated--Resistance is futile”, whereas
the ‘multiculturalism’ mentality of some other countries offers diversity and
harmony.
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Ah, so you are implying that we should, in the interests of “multiculturalism”
allow some governments to oppress and brutalize millions of their citizens,
denying them freedom and the ability to choose their governmental leaders? This
idea that assimilating the world into adopting Freedom and Democracy is somehow
a Bad Idea® borders on evil IMO.
I think your problem is that you are having a hard time separating our culture
from our ideals. I don’t want the world to look like America, only embrace
her ideals.
JOHN
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| (...) That ditty sounds good, but it does not correlate well with the reality of Washington’s foreign policy “interventions” over the past 50 years. All too often democracy has been quashed and oppression supported. Scott A (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) There it is--the inherent arrogance in the American system. "We got it right!" Yeah, low standards of education, addiction and seemingly perpetual addiction to fossil fuels and (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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