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Re: disturbing ideas
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Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:23:51 GMT
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   St Ronnie was not the sharpest stick in the pile when elected!

Funny, I was a Liberal during the Reagan years, and used to think the exact same thing. Now on the other side I see how that that characterization was Liberal spin, just as Liberals assertion of Bush being a “moron”. It is partisan hacktalk.

Actions speak louder than words: Bush is no intellectual.

  
  
  
  
It also has a couple of other good quotes.


(snip)

   He forgot to mention was that Gaza, with its 1.3 million inhabitants, is only about 1% of historic Palestine.

What the heck is “historic Palestine”?

Do you reject the Balfour declaration which sought the “establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”?

No.

OK. So Palestine did exist then?

   Did you mean “Palestinian people”?

Why should I?

  
  
   This leads me to think about some disturbing ideas I have heard lately about Israel and the Palestinians,

I’ve heard disturbing ideas from both both sides of this argument...

   and I’m wondering how ubiquitious they are among the Left, so let me ask you Scott: yes or no-- do you actually recognize the legitimacy of the State of Israel to exist?

Yes; I have said so many times. I also recognise its right to self-defence.

Okay. Good; I thought so, but had to recheck, because there is a lot of thinking out there (in the American Left anyway) that actually denies these rights for the State of Israel!

   Do you recognise the West Bank as land which does not belong to Israel under international law?

Of course, except for some sticky issues WRT Jerusalem.

Why? The status of Jerusalem under international law is clear.

Scott A



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(...) Funny, I was a Liberal during the Reagan years, and used to think the exact same thing. Now on the other side I see how that that characterization was Liberal spin, just as Liberals assertion of Bush being a "moron". It is partisan hacktalk. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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