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Re: disturbing ideas
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:27:57 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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Again?
That would require that we voted for him the first time.
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As an aside, I loved
this quote
about your alleged president:
For years it has been my belief that the ideal US president for Middle
East peace would be one who had the ethics of a Carter,
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Ever done any reading on Carter’s cronies?
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the popularity of a Reagan
and the strategic audacity of a Nixon. Alas, we have a president who has
the ethics of a Nixon, the popularity of a Carter and the intellectual
agility of a Reagan.
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Making light of a man battling Alzheimer’s Disease? Too off-color for me.
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St Ronnie was not the sharpest stick in the pile when elected!
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Funny, I was a Liberal during the Reagan years, and used to think the exact same
thing. Now on the other side I see how that that characterization was Liberal
spin, just as Liberals assertion of Bush being a “moron”. It is partisan
hacktalk.
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It also has a couple of other good quotes.
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(snip)
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He forgot to mention was that Gaza, with
its 1.3 million inhabitants, is only about 1% of historic Palestine.
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What the heck is “historic Palestine”?
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Do you reject the Balfour declaration which sought the “establishment in
Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”?
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No. Did you mean “Palestinian people”?
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This leads me to think about some
disturbing ideas I have heard lately about Israel and the Palestinians,
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I’ve heard disturbing ideas from both both sides of this argument...
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and
I’m wondering how ubiquitious they are among the Left, so let me ask you
Scott: yes or no-- do you actually recognize the legitimacy of the State of
Israel to exist?
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Yes; I have said so many times. I also recognise its right to self-defence.
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Okay. Good; I thought so, but had to recheck, because there is a lot of
thinking out there (in the American Left anyway) that actually denies these
rights for the State of Israel!
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Do you recognise the West Bank as land which does not belong to Israel under
international law?
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Of course, except for some sticky issues WRT Jerusalem.
JOHN
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| (...) Actions speak louder than words: Bush is no intellectual. (...) OK. So Palestine did exist then? (...) Why should I? (...) Why? The status of Jerusalem under international law is clear. Scott A (21 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) St Ronnie was not the sharpest stick in the pile when elected! (...) Do you reject the Balfour declaration which sought the “establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”? (...) I've heard disturbing ideas from both both (...) (21 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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