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(...) Unfortunately, as with soldierly misconduct at Abu Ghraib, nobody knows how far up the proverbial food chain this goes. There is not yet any evidence that it was anyone but the soldiers involved in peacekeeping themselves; I find it very (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Congratulations! You've just managed to sum up nearly all the wars: we're right, the enemy is wrong. We're brave, the enemy is villanous. We'll win, the enemy will lose. We think all this, the enemy... does too. So why is it he's the enemy, (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm almost at a loss for words. (URL) At a time when the world's opinion was with the UN for their stance of the Iraqi situation, those stupid <insert expletive here> go do what they did. I don't swear much, but this just makes me seething with (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Once caught, I wonder if they will be subjected to a 1-hour show trial? (...) Scott A (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) From the New York Times: Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, a spokesman for the occupation forces, estimated that there were a total of 3,000 to 5,000 guerrilla fighters in Iraq, with 5 to 10 percent of those coming from outside the country. Since when (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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This post is rather long. Sorry about that, for anyone who's following. (...) Well, I watched the entire "beheading" video, and honestly it's not particularly more horrifying that the pictures from Abu Ghraib. Yes, it's a brutal, premeditiated act, (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I know, I know. I promised myself I'd try to stay away from .debate. But this freedom fighter thing got me thinking. What's a freedom fighter? Who gets to decide? Were the IRA ever called freedom fighters? How are they generally perceived in (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What part of wiping out the Taliban in Afganistan wasn't helpful? What part of deposing SH, a known sponsor of terrorism and possessor of WMDs wasn't helpful? What would you suggest as an alternative response? (...) What war are you talking (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) View the horrific video of these people screaming "Allah is the Greatest!" as one of them slowly slices off the head of an innocent human being and then holding up the severed head as a trophy and answer your own question. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I assume that is suppostion. My point is that you appeared to be wrong when you said "The resistance in Iraq is coming primarily from outside Iraq, not in." OK? (...) What does using Nick Berg's "slaughter" to justify the bombing of a wedding (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Are you channeling a little (URL) Luc Picard> there? Dave! FUT OT.Geek (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) On what basis do you declare these people to be psychotic, inhuman and irrational? Is it because they go to extraordinary lengths to force others to accept their extremist religious doctrines? Is it because they kill innocent civilians in the (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You may think that Scotts missing your point, but the point you seem to be oblivious to is that the actions undertaken by this US administration isn't helpful to reducing or eliminating the terrorist threats. It's like this-- If 'the people' (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They are the ones who keep blowing themselves up and wreaking all of the havoc-- exactly what al-qaeda wants (not Iraq) (...) (snipped) Is this where I reply by posting a link to the Nick Berg slaughter? You are being a jerk. (...) So, 9-11 (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Bush Passes the Buck Again!
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Bush passes the buck again; this time it's the Iranians who are at blame: (URL) See:> "It's pretty clear that Iranians had us for breakfast, lunch and dinner," said an intelligence source in Washington yesterday. "Iranian intelligence has been (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Only time and the risk of even more spam. (...) From its very pages: Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, a spokesman for the occupation forces, estimated that there were a total of 3,000 to 5,000 guerrilla fighters in Iraq, with 5 to 10 percent of those (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, it was inappropriate. But, it was unbelievably hilarious too. You're right, John. I have a big problem with teaching kids that young about erotic attire and attitudes. One example I especially loathe -- and you may have seen this in your (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Doh! Right you are! My mistake. The Gneisenau and Scharnhorst were definitely of the battle cruiser type vessel, in that they were built in response to the Invincibles and later Indefatigables. Interestingly, the Germans never really fully (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nah, not worth it. I think I misread your initial point anyway, and my question was imprecisely worded. (...) Heck, I've already been doing that. I'm glad to support the team! Haven't you read the thread? :-) Only the parts in OT.debate. You (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) On the legal definition of insider trading as it stands, today, in the US. That's the last I'll say about it in this thread, start a new thread if you want. (...) Don't buy from him, every chance you get. Haven't you read the thread? :-) (...) (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please. The New York Times is considered the most respected and established news source in the US (registration costs nothing). (...) Won't dignify that smart-ass remark with a repl.....uh, nevermind. (...) How do you increase a threat as (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's an interesting assertion, though I'd have to differ. On what do you base it? (...) Hadn't thought about it, honestly. What could I do, if I wished? I can head to Hawaii and give him the frowning of a lifetime. Who's with me!?! Dave! (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is this really worth subscribing for? (...) Like those folks at that wedding? (...) ...Bush is increasing the threat; don't doubt that! Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not really, because I support insider trading. All trading is insider trading, actually. (...) Nope. Assuming there's no breach of contract. (...) Nothing. You, however, can do something about it, if you wish. (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Might this seem like a form of insider trading? If LEGO has facilitated this process in defiance of its stated ordering limits, then cleary they're at fault. But what if the seller has found a non-publicly-disclosed means of acquiring numerous (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It requires registration. Can you summarize it? Either way, since there is no valid, pre-existing link between Iraq and al Qaida, and since Dubya used that falsified link as one of the justifications for initiating his war, then al Qaida and (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Indeed they are. Which is why I asked that LEGO look into it. (asked, mind you) And later posted that I have reason to believe they are looking into it. (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Incorrect. In fact, the responsibility of those lost Iraqi lives can be attributed to OBL as well. Consider this recent NYT article by Thomas Friedman: (URL) The resistance in Iraq is coming primarily from outside Iraq, not in. As Friedman (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Without commenting directly on www.iraqbodycount.net, I would like to offer (URL) this> article for consideration. You'll either need to subscribe to Salon or watch a brief promotional ad from a sponser, but it takes less than a minute. The (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The "pocket battleships" (literally Panzerschiffen, or armor-clads) you're thinking of were Deutschland (later Lützow), Admiral Graf Spee (of the River Plate, and which a private company is talking about raising and restoring (!!!!)), and (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Zing! Well, as an investment, it sounds like a dumb marketing decision, if anything. Bowling for Columbine cost a few million to make and raked in over $120M. Farenheit is at least fairly likely to pull in similar returns. Since the company (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I see what you mean. I went to the link expecting maybe a 10-20% yes vote, but 42%? The ironic thing, for those that have tried to block this film is that it has gained far more publicity than if they had done nothing, after all what (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It could be very possible that this person works for Maersk in Hawaii, or knows someone who works for Maersk, or contacted Maersk directly (having an "in" with the company) to obtain the ships. Not to defend this person, but these are (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, you almost sound like you've seen the movie? (...) Personally, I'd like to see balance in the American news media before I worry about award winning documentary pieces emanating from the USA. ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very true. But, even the Germans considered the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst something called 'Pocket Battleships.' This was a peculiar way to present a ship that was greatly outclassed by BBs and BCs. The Germans could thus claim Naval equality (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's just a marketing decision, nothing sinister. Disney decided they already had enough fantasy films in this summer's line up. (I won't pay anything to that man, because even when he's right, he's annoyingly hatchetjobbish. Why not just (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Once I see this, I shall post a review for those living within "Disney's public conscience" zone. ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But this is the US naval classification system (or perhaps Jane's)--and it is therefore that also used by those of us operating in retrospect. Remember that German battleships and battlecruisers in WWI (and in WWII--Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's not *my* reasoning. It's my speculation about *their* reasoning. If you want to infer what I think, think about "slices pretty close"... and what I meant by that.:-) (...) I could (facetiously) argue the point, in that since they mass (...) (20 years ago, 23-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This person has either cheated the system to somehow get 200 Mearsk ships, or they do not really have that many to begin with. I also agree that asking $200 each for a set that just came out is both rude and absurd...so I'd like to do (...) (20 years ago, 22-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, but it's not enough for me. I was looking for more info about Kerry, but clearly I don't write well enough to convey that question here. That's ok though, the internet's a big place. I'll find it. (...) It's not what I asked for, but (...) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I won't get into that debate again, but thank you for respecting my choice. I'm a separatist, as you canadian folks call us. I've never been canadian at heart. The point, however, is not to break Canada. It's to have our own Country. Québec. (...) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper wrote: This should make things clearer... Basically what I tried to explain, in better words. (URL) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Vote for a party whose platform is to break up Canada? Probably not Though, to be said, at least the Bloc stands for something, instead of this vague 'give us your money so we can waste it on stuff...' Beyond that, whereas I'd prefer a chance (...) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hehe David, I guess you're almost sorry not to have the Bloc Québécois to vote for now, don't you? Because what choice do Ontarians have? Paul MArtin the scumbag or Stephen Harper the right-wing extremist. Or you could waste your vote (or (...) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAhha...ahaaa..... hehe... funny... hehe...heheHEHEHAHAH...AAHHA!!!!! That guy is hillarious! We're sooooo evil! We let Gay people wed! We dont put people in jail because they smoked a joint! "Quick, fellow Americans, let us (...) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: <snip> (...) While que question is not addressed to me, I will try to answer it for myself. Of course, I am Québécois, so I don't have to vote, but here's my answer anyway. Kerry, as I understand it, (...) (20 years ago, 21-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tank shells used as warning shots on unarmoured human beings (despite the availability of perfectly serviceable heavy machine guns). I guess one must admire the Israeli Army's enthusiasm... Richard Still baldly going... (20 years ago, 20-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Seneca: "Consult your friend on all things, especially on those which respect yourself. His counsel may then be useful where your own self-love might impair your judgment." Scott A (20 years ago, 20-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps the propeller accelerates the air backwards at high speeds, which then leaves the bubble, pushing the whole thing forwards. Sorta like an over-complicated ion drive. Of course you'd need to carry a lot of compressed air as propellant, (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) article Bill. Let me point out just a few spins from the 'no spin zone'... " Even countries like Canada are no longer dependable allies. According to a Macleans poll, 38% of Canadians say their attitude toward the USA has worsened since 9/11. (...) (20 years ago, 19-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) That can't be easy>: "The army said it did not deliberately target protesters, but a helicopter and tanks had fired warning shots to stop crowds entering a battle zone. " Scott A (20 years ago, 19-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Dear self-proclaimed cool guys, Stop patting yourself on the back for the high number of hits your brickshelf folder gets!! You're getting hits because you update it with nothing evey other friggin day!!! Ahhh. That felt good. Felix (20 years ago, 18-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped the hissy fits> Now kids, don't make me separate you two. Let's all just check this at the door, build some cool mecha of our own styles, and have fun, eh? Bravely jumping in the middle, -Chris (note: Guys, don't take this too (...) (20 years ago, 18-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
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(...) I dunno, Lar, this looks like the kind of heavy-handed psychological tactics that Hitler would have used to shut down open debate... - Chris. (20 years ago, 16-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Something I found from rooting around in orkut communities... (URL) to believe that it's been 10 years, almost! (20 years ago, 16-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Woulda been more relaxing if some of the terrorists had bombs strapped to them. Or maybe I just didnt wait long enough.... ROSCO (20 years ago, 15-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Does that include the "Pop Idol" finals? Scott A (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Damm those lunatic Canadians!! btw, how did we get into such a state of affairs that the next election in Canada and the next election in the US of A are "the most important elections ever", as people are stating. Is this, what's the (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There goes Canada again, blaming the US for its unemployment problems. You should have thought of that before you broke into Mike P's house. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It's Friday, so why not have a go at (URL) this> to help you unwind for the weekend. Warning 1: Shockwave is required. Warning 2: The message may be a little subtle. (URL) Scott A> (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes. I am curator for all of .off-topic, including .debate However by choice I have not done anything to the sidebar of this group (unlike .fun or .geek) (...) Yes. Send me (or Frank) a list (urls preferred) of any and all posts you want (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) omgoodness--I'm sitting in some presentation or other that has nothign to do with IS, bored out of my tree, with my laptop running, and I read this. Almost cost me my job there Dave!! ;) (...) Dave K -show me a dangerous Canadian lunatic and (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's the 'Murica that just grates like nails on a blackboard. But who am I to speak? I say "T'ranna" for Toronto. (...) Hey! I'm the hick here! The loud mouthed "Canada da bomb, USA SuxOrs!!" Well, no, not really. But the hick part is mostly (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hah! If you want a good laugh, go back and find some of my early posts from 1999 and 2000--then you'll see someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Heck, for that matter, some would likely argue that I still don't know what I'm (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I really felt pretty bad about it when I posted. I shouldn't be in .debate because I don't know what I'm talking about. I have to figure out a way to get mozilla to drop the extra slash from my lugnet history entry: (URL) way the .debate (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don, I've never thought of you this way, so I assume you are being sarcastic? I myself am very passionate about the upcoming election simply because there is so much at stake. I've watched in horror over the past 3.5 years as our government (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) NB unexpected is not the same as uncommon! (...) ...it is in the UK! So mush so that Mugabe has "banned" the BBC. Scott A (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't actually like him. In fact I cringe whenever I hear him speak. Probably the born again affectations that disturb me. Anyhow, I'm not as smart as you, so I can't really put into words why he's got my vote so far. Probably it's the war (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I figured that it was okay because we have the same name. You can bring a few more Dons into the discussion, if you'd like... (...) That's fine, but the problem is that those reasons aren't sufficient justification to invade a sovereign (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, you *can* win an election on that. But Ok, here goes... + Kerry, by all accounts, served his country with honor and bravery in Viet Nam, even though he could easily have dodged military service the way that Bush and Cheney did. On (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pedro, thanks for doing what others didn’t: recognise my point! I shall try to be less subtle next time :) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is your point: Is he supposed to be grateful that he was not one of the inmates who ended up dead? Does a brutal and needless death(1) this week justify the brutality which pre-dated it? Scott A (1) …which was allegedly a reaction to (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Ok, let me try again. I understand you don't like Bush, but I asked what you like about Kerry, or Nader, or anybody else. Is there nothing to like about them other than they're not GWB? You can't win an election on that. (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, I thought that was the point of keeping a blog on the internet. (...) Ok, you're still being too subtle for me, because I still don't get it. Educated, not average, employed, so what. Enough with the subtle hints, you're just going to (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have seen the writing on the wall for Bush ever since he dragged us into an unjustified war. His administration has repeatedly shown signs that they have completely mis-read the situation in Iraq from the beginning, and it was sadly doomed (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not the one I write my memos in. Or log, or blog, or anything other than texts for outside consumption. (...) If I wanted you to ignore my post, I would have written my reply in Portuguese. My point is that the author *wants* to get your (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, tag team. No fair! (...) Ok, you didn't like those reasons. How about these? (URL) know you'll like these. (URL) is, WMDs is just one of many reasons... (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, what language did you just write that in. Should we ignore your post because it's "written in English for outside consumption"? What are you implying? I don't get it. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Reading Iraqui blogs written in English for outside consumption, you mean? Pedro (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [snip] (...) I think the part about the sinking ship may be just wishful thinking on the part of the democrats, but time will tell. Anyhow, what I'm wondering is what makes you feel this current administration is any more arrogant than the (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: I hope Dave K. will forgive me for jumping in. Here are a few points worth noting: (...) Does that mean that we can bomb Iraq and slaughter civilians for all time, until we are satisfied that the 15% (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you're misinterpreting my analogy... Man Bites Dog is an old cliche for the "unexpected news event"... you sort of (at this point) expect Mugabe to burn down white farmers houses and beat up the last remnants of the free press so it's (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Reading those blogs might interfere with a nice pat and already well thought out view of the world, you know. ++Lar (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They're out there if you want them. I'm sure they've been discussed to death here before, but I don't have time right now to track that down. So once again it's google to the rescue. Here's a short list from one of the sites. Reasons for going (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you wish to keep on insulting the messenger, all the power to ya. I'm just trying to get a coherent idea of where you're coming from. Stated--the Iraqis have blogs now, they didn't have blogs before the occupation. What'd I miss? So I'm not (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You really should check them out. But I admit it's difficult. There are so, so many of them. (...) Wow, you really have a twisty mind. Of course the war cannot be justified simply because they have the internet now. Where do you come up with (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll have to peruse the blogs more thoroughly when I'm not at work (LUGNET at the office, can only give scant attention elsewhere through the day and keep my job...) But by what I'm reading, the (internet cafe) ends justify the (inept, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, that was one of my less lame attempts to change the subject--just ask anyone. Anyway, from my perspective, I see an Iraqi citizen whose nation was invaded, who is 90% likely to have been incarcerated for no good reason, and who was (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A lame attempt to change the subject. But if you must go there, at least his head is still attached to his body. Perspective. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you read any of those blogs? They talk constantly about the electricity situation. You can get even more answers with google. Try searching for "internet cafe iraq blog". Here's the top link. (URL) begins like this: " BAGHDAD — A year ago, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that guy wearing the hood and standing on the box with wires attached to his genitals probably had more than enough electricity. See? The Dubya/Cheney/Rumsfeld reconstruction agency is improving conditions all the time! Dave! (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How many Iraqis have access to the web? Heck, how many Iraqi's have 24-hour electricity? Scott A (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What about: Man feeds dog Man starves dog Man wants dog's bone Man beats dog Dog bites man (...) That is correct; we are setting the standard. Remember (URL) this>: "Mr Rumsfeld said the Geneva convention "indicates that it's not permitted to (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why wonder? Read up. if you're going to speak out for them, then you owe them the courtesy of reading their own words first. (5 URLs) sure to check out the rest of links on the right to see what others there have to say. And heck, while you're (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder at what point does armageddon happen? (...) Good question. Though, for myself, I don't appreciate being dictated to, therefore I shall not dictate to others vis a vis spiritual beliefs, so my god maybe, well, God, but yours doesn't (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's equally easy to lose sight of how bad some of the good guys can be when we mostly hear about how good the good guys "are." (...) I think that's the essence of it. We didn't just go in there to stop a bad guy from doing bad things--we (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder if all the other unnecessary civilian deaths in Iraq make ordinary Iraqis feel equally angry? I wonder if the light sentences purportedly being dished out to those involved in the physical abuse, sexual abuse, rape and murder within (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nice. (...) Ahh, back to the 'US needs to be in Iraq to curtail terrorism towards the US' card. Please tell me the following, in case my 'thinking processes' as you alluded to, weren't 'on' at the time--How many Iraqis hijacked planes on 9/11 (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: [another big snip] (...) That's true, but not for the reasons you think. (Do you think? you write a great deal, but I get the impression you don't stop to think about it first.) 1. With Saddam in (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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