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Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
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Wed, 12 May 2004 21:12:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:

I'll have to peruse the blogs more thoroughly when I'm not at work
(LUGNET at the office, can only give scant attention elsewhere through
the day and keep my job...)

You really should check them out.  But I admit it's difficult.  There are
so, so many of them.

But by what I'm reading, the (internet cafe) ends justify the (inept,
mishandled, bold-faced lieing, warmongering) means?  Because they have the
internet we can rationalize the war?  The deaths?  The atrocities?

Or do you wish to rephrase that?

Wow, you really have a twisty mind.  Of course the war cannot be justified
simply because they have the internet now.  Where do you come up with that
stuff?  It's like the WMDs again.  Are you really only capable of focusing
on ONE reason?

If you wish to keep on insulting the messenger, all the power to ya.  I'm just
trying to get a coherent idea of where you're coming from.  Stated--the Iraqis
have blogs now, they didn't have blogs before the occupation.  What'd I miss?

So I'm not judging you, just your message.  The threat to America was already
dispensed with as lies (or as the morons in power are prone to say "A
misinterpretation or miscommunicaton of the intelligence data"), so unless you
have something new on that front to add...

All that was left was the 'one' reason--blogs.  Perhaps you can give more
reasons why there are US forces in Iraq today?

They're out there if you want them.  I'm sure they've been discussed to
death here before, but I don't have time right now to track that down.
So once again it's google to the rescue.  Here's a short list from one
of the sites.

Reasons for going into Iraq.

As stated by both President Bush and P.M. Blair, there were several
reasons we decided to remove Sadam Hussein:

1. Failure to live up to the terms of his 1991 surrender, including
accounting for and destroying ALL knows WMD. (15% of his then stockpile
REMAIN unaccounted for.)

2. Defiance of UN resolutions over a 12 year period, as well as shooting
at coalition planes patrolling the UN mandated "no fly" zone.

3. Human rights violations in Iraq, including but not limited to torture,
organized policy of rape and aggressive suppression of dissent.

4. Cooperation with terrorists, including terrorist training camp at
Salman Pak (including a commercial airliner body for hijacking practice),
giving refuge to terrorists, including but not limited to Abu Nidal,
suspected ties to Al Qaeda (since documented).

5. Threat of nuclear development. It's noteworthy to point out that
British Intelligence has STILL NOT RETRACTED its contention that Sadam
was trying to purchase enriched uranium from AFRICA. There was no mention
of NIGER in their report, nor in President Bush's State of the Union
Address, by the way.



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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: I hope Dave K. will forgive me for jumping in. Here are a few points worth noting: (...) Does that mean that we can bomb Iraq and slaughter civilians for all time, until we are satisfied that the 15% (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) If you wish to keep on insulting the messenger, all the power to ya. I'm just trying to get a coherent idea of where you're coming from. Stated--the Iraqis have blogs now, they didn't have blogs before the occupation. What'd I miss? So I'm not (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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