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Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
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Wed, 12 May 2004 17:55:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:

I don't swear much, but this beheading just makes me seething with anger.  He
wasn't even a soldier for crying out loud.

I wonder if all the other unnecessary civilian deaths in Iraq make ordinary
Iraqis feel equally angry? I wonder if the light sentences purportedly being
dished out to those involved in the physical abuse, sexual abuse, rape and
murder within Bush's detention facilities also make ordinary Iraqis feel equally
angry?


I wonder at what point does armageddon happen?



See, it's the mentality--when you are born into and taught your entire lives
that the 'infidels' are 'less than you', you can commit these heinous acts of
barbarism and not even remotely consider that you're doing something wrong.

How does western media portray Arabs; does it suggest they are 'less than you'?


Good question.  Though, for myself, I don't appreciate being dictated to,
therefore I shall not dictate to others vis a vis spiritual beliefs, so my god
maybe, well, God, but yours doesn't have to be.  Buddha, Islam, whatever 'floats
your boat'.  The point when you commit heinous acts against others in the name
of your god is the point where you've gone too far.



Do I have an solution?  Do I have an answer?  I know that the Americans have
mismanaged this fiasco from the beginning, and every shred of evidence points to
this mismanagement eminating from Dubya's administration.  But what to do now?
Now it's a totally differnt ball-game.  We see the 'enemy' for what he really
is--a spiteful, vengeful group of people who have *no* consideration for people
who aren't them.  Iraq isn't the issue.  Iraqi people probably just want to go
about their daily business and be left alone and let 'the powers that be' go do
something else.  But these extreme religious zealots who can hack off a person's
head and hold it up for the world to see...

Whilst we watch in "shock and awe"(TM) as Iraqi civilians are killed on our TV
screens?

that's an entirely different matter.



Anyway, too angry to make it more clear than that.  I just have this quotation
attributed to a Japanese general (and it ain't perfect to be sure, but you'll
get the point)--"We did what we did for the good of our people, but I fear we
have awoken a great beast"

Yeah, I've seen that movie too...

Scott A


See, I just have to throw the debate topic out there, and Scott comes along and
articulates it better than I ever could have.

Thanks Scott.

Dave K
-better questions, too!



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(...) Why wonder? Read up. if you're going to speak out for them, then you owe them the courtesy of reading their own words first. (5 URLs) sure to check out the rest of links on the right to see what others there have to say. And heck, while you're (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I wonder if all the other unnecessary civilian deaths in Iraq make ordinary Iraqis feel equally angry? I wonder if the light sentences purportedly being dished out to those involved in the physical abuse, sexual abuse, rape and murder within (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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