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Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 25 May 2004 14:31:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
From its very pages:
Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, a spokesman for the occupation forces, estimated
that there were a total of 3,000 to 5,000 guerrilla fighters in Iraq, with 5
to 10 percent of those coming from outside the country.
Since when did 5 to 10% = “most”?
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They are the ones who keep blowing themselves up and wreaking all of the havoc--
exactly what al-qaeda wants (not Iraq)
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The resistance in Iraq is coming primarily from outside Iraq, not in.
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Like those folks at that wedding?
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Won’t dignify that smart-ass remark with a repl.....uh, nevermind.
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Bush’s spin: “This is one of the routes we have watched for a long time as a
place where foreign fighters and smugglers go.”
The reality:
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(snipped)
Is this where I reply by posting a link to the Nick Berg slaughter? You are
being a jerk.
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Bush’s inability to admit fault is further radicalisimg opinion in the region
and thus increasing the “threat” to us all.
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So, 9-11 was Bush’s fault? Whose fault was it, then?
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As
Friedman says, it is better to address this threat early outside of US
borders before it reaches us.
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...Bush is increasing the threat; don’t doubt that!
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How do you increase a threat as large as the 9-11 attack?
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The 9-11(R) attack was not a threat.
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Don’t be daft! I am talking about another attack that would be “increased”
(your words)
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I think Bush
overreacted to decrease that threat, if anything.
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The main source of concern pre 911 was US support for the Saudi’s and Israel.
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And obviously, that concern was vastly inadequate given the events of 9-11.
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Bush has made that list much longer! Bush only reacts to the symptoms; not
the causes. I can’t think of any real effort he has made to target what
drives the “evil doers”.
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Listen to me, Scott, because I’m sick and tired of “going there” over this
issue. The motivation of the terrorists is not our concern. We can’t stop
sick minds from thinking evil. Do you even know what the terrorists want????
Do you? What do they want, Scott? Even if America pulls every single American
back to the US and never steps foot outside of her borders, do you think that
would make them happy? This isn’t about poverty or suffering of the poor or any
other social issue you want to envoke. It is about religious fanaticism--
psychotic, inhuman, and irrational. There is no “dealing” with that.
Try to get this through your thick skull: they want everybody (not just the
US) either to become one of them or die. That’s it. What did you ever do to
these people? And yet read this: http://dennisprager.com/destroyengland.html
I read that I am simply dumbfounded. That is what we are up against.
JOHN
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