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  Re: Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern – RELOADED
 
(...) Sorry I'm a bit late to the party (been on vacation) but I think you should submit it. It looks good enough for me. Actually I think it's too good not to submit. Compare your part (as seen in LDRAW): (URL) And this official part (as seen in (...) (20 years ago, 17-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) We're doing everything we can to secure that, behind the scenes, although we don't yet have it, it's only a communication issue, we're pretty sure. I'd rather not go into more detail than that for privacy reasons. (...) That's a key point. We (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) Having an official reference implemention would put us in a better position in several ways. For the parts library, we could resolve a number of nagging issues, like the dithered-colors-have...e-subfiled restriction. For the rendering (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) You have some valid points here but I want to respond to this one specifically. The copyright decision has been made. It was finalized a month and a half ago. What are we waiting for? We're are waiting for consent from the Jessiman's to go (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) I never knew James; I became aware of LDraw a long time after he has passed away. I have no idea what would be best for the file system, the prog, to honour his accomplishments ... actually I don't care about much. I'm not very good in this (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) Excellent point. However there are a lot of (in some ways incompatible) dialects of C. There ARE reference implementations for things like all the Java components (the javac compiler, the java jvm, the jms messaging, jca, the rmi server, etc (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) Why have a replacement at all? The file format stands by itself. There's no reference complier for C code, no reference viewer for the PNG format, and no reference CAD program for the DXF format, why should there be one for the LDraw system? (...) (20 years ago, 12-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) IIRC, the limit was only on the size of the root directory -- but I could well be wrong. I think there are two separate, and related, questions here: Do we want to keep supporting DOS as a platform? Do we want to keep supporting LDraw 0.27? (...) (20 years ago, 12-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) Willy, You really got a good point here. I don't know if there is anyone that still uses original LDraw. And, I don't think the LDraw parts library is LDraw compatible anyway. At least not running under DOS - I think there was a limit of 2000 (...) (20 years ago, 12-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern – RELOADED
 
Hi folks, I overhauled the Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern - 3754p90.dat. (URL) Although this is the re-engineering of an existing LEGO part, it will NOT be submitted to the LDraw Parts Tracker for certification. It would never make it (...) (20 years ago, 12-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)  
 
  Re: LDraw.org's November Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
(...) Well yes, kind of. Since I only get a max of about 2-3 entries per month for each contest, I roll over the non-winning entries until they win or for 3 months. This keeps the field competive and also allows well made entries that may have been (...) (20 years ago, 9-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org's November Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
(...) Am I mistaken in thinking that this month's submissions look remarkably like last month's? Allister (20 years ago, 9-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  LDraw.org's November Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
Congratulations to the winners of the November Model/Scene of the month contests: Both Model and Scene of the Month were won by Jorgen Andersson (URL) MOTM, Panzer IV H - German Medium Tank> (URL) SOTM, Class V5 diesel pulling boxcars> The voting (...) (20 years ago, 6-Dec-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  LDraw.org's October Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
Congratulations to the winners of the October Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, Set 4450 - P10 steam engine, Ben Beneke> (URL) SOTM, Cityscape 3: Bus Stop in the Summer Sun, Niels Bugge> The voting for the November Model of the Month (...) (20 years ago, 7-Nov-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)  
 
  LSC Moderator Authentication
 
Spam is flooding into my mailbox, forwarded by lsc-request at ld...org. I am required to approve or deny those mails, but I always get the "Authorization failed" message when attempting to. Could somebody fix a working password so I can started? (20 years ago, 6-Nov-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org's September Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
(...) Congratulate with the scene Ben, it's really nice and the cows look very cute, but I think you should work a little more with the background, hiding the big concrete field in the background by adding another layer of houses, trees or landscape (...) (20 years ago, 17-Oct-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: A small correction to 2004-03 distros
 
Gaah! Preview only works, if you work it! ;) (...) There should be a "not" in that line, "would not make". Steve (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  A small correction to 2004-03 distros
 
I noticed yesterday that the ldconfig.ldr file included in the current complete.exe/complete.zip distribution files was incorrect, and did not match the file in the lcad0403.exe/lcad0403.zip files. I updated the complete.* files with the newer (...) (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw.org's September Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
Congratulations to the winners of the September Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, US Sherman M4A3 Tank, Jorgen Andersson> (URL) SOTM, I am a train driver..., Ben Beneke> The voting for the October Model of the Month and Scene of the (...) (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)  
 
  LDraw.org Downtime
 
Per the following post: (URL) will be down 10/5 at 2pm EDT for about 15 min. Since Peeron also hosts LDraw.org, LDraw.org will be down as well. -Orion (20 years ago, 4-Oct-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: New style of part file 3941 vs. 6143
 
(...) I've added pictures of some of these variants to my comparison galleries: (URL) the two previous pictures. One addition to Chris' excellent descriptions is that the older bottoms (2A) can be used in a SNOT function with plates; the newer (...) (20 years ago, 28-Sep-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Bow-tie quads in BFC-certified parts
 
(...) I've seen them in one official part, and one part on the tracker. But since I haven't really been looking for them, I'm guessing they exists in other parts. The main culprit appears to be pre-existing parts that were later BFC-certified. (Both (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Bow-tie quads in BFC-certified parts
 
(...) How often do you find bow-tied parts in BFC CERTIFY'd parts? I meant that's a real error that shouldn't be allowed by the parts tracker isn't it? Is there a rule that can be added to the checks done on the files that are submitted that will (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Bow-tie quads in BFC-certified parts
 
(...) It's funny how quickly I can forget the details of a complex task. For instance, I totally forgot about the NOCLIP BFC command (which can disable clipping for specific sub-sections of a file). Mind you, I implemented it, and believe that it (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Bow-tie quads in BFC-certified parts
 
(Note that I'm sending followups to the lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw newsgroup alone, because that seems to be the appropriate group, but I think the audience of the lugnet.cad.dat.parts group should see this.) In the process of testing my next major (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
 
  August's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
Congratulations to the winners of the August Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, Tom Kimsey, A-71 "Razorback" Heavy Attack Fighter> (URL) SOTM, Neils Bugge, Cityscape 2: Hearse / Vertical City> The voting for the September Model of the (...) (20 years ago, 2-Sep-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce, FTX)
 
  Fearless leader
 
(URL) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
(...) OK, I looked it up. You want to make sure both of the following menu options are checked: Process->External Programs->Polling->Poll to L3Lab and LDView Process->External Programs->Polling->Poll to selected line only Then when you launch either (...) (20 years ago, 13-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
(...) I'll check that out immediately. At the moment, I'm trying to figure out how to make the Polling option in LDDP to work as a stepper. I'm rendering existing parts by blocks of code to see how you folks created them. The STEP function will (...) (20 years ago, 12-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
(...) The LDAO Editor has a setting to draw up to the current line only. It's on Options -> Stop-at-Cursor. Steve (20 years ago, 12-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
(...) I had a really hard time finding that option also. And yet even so I'm not convinced it's in a bad place, since once I found it it made sense. I'm pretty sure it's in the polling menu. --Travis Cobbs (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
(...) Thanks. That's just what I'm looking for. But please pardon my ignorance. I have the basic LDDP without much plug-ins. I searched every option in the standard issue, but couldn't find the _draw to selected line mode_ option. Is that option (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
(...) You can try LDDP draw to selected line mode. This will output the model from the beginning to the selected line. -Orion (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  STEP into using LDAO or LDDP
 
Other than commenting and uncommenting blocks of code, how can one step through the lines one by one? I'm trying to teach myself how to author by following examples. I'd like to be able to step through the lines of code and see what is being (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw Licence Call for Comments at Brickfest
 
Links to the current LDraw Licence proposal: (URL) it seems as if the conversation regarding the licence has come to a standstill, we'd like to call for a final round of comments. We would like all LDraw contributers to air out their concerns, small (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
(...) You're welcome. And thanks for keeping the contests going. They really are appreciated. --Travis (20 years ago, 7-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
(...) Thanks for the heads up. I fixed this problem; you should now be able to vote. -Orion (20 years ago, 6-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
(...) This doesn't seem to be working. When I try to go to the voting page from the ldraw.org main page, it tells me, "[ Incorrect User ID or Password, or your account has been disabled/expired. ]". When I click on the My Account link, it happily (...) (20 years ago, 6-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  July's Winners for LDraw.org's MOTM and SOTM Contests
 
Congratulations to the winners of the July Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, Jorgen Andersson, SJ Class Rc4 Locomotive> (URL) SOTM, John Haynes, Missle Launce> The voting for the August Model of the Month and Scene of the Month contests (...) (20 years ago, 6-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce, FTX)
 
  Re: Licensing Update
 
(...) As long as the authors realise that it's not just ldraw.org getting the rights (it's the public as well). (...) I think having these notes available to people as they upload their parts is a good idea. Sort of like 'This is the license your (...) (20 years ago, 2-Aug-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Contrubter Agreement v4
 
The intent of the CA has changed. Please read the following poat for explanation: (URL) LDraw.org Steering Committee -*-*-*- Parts Library Contributor Agreement ---...--- Version: 4 (25-Jul-04) Submission Guidelines ---...--- By submitting work (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Licensing Update
 
For those following along, here's a link to previous discussion: (URL) carefully considering everyone's inputs and concerns we have decided to pursue an approach that uses only a user license as the licensing mechanism. However we still feel the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I'm terrible at reading legalese, but I do know that the Disney company has the copyright to all the characters created by Mr. Disney, even though he has been dead for a very long time. This suggests that yes, copyrights in the US and in other (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Problems accessing ldraw.org
 
Hi Everyone! Been a long time since I've been on. I keep getting the following error when trying to access www.ldraw.org: Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /usr/www/users/peero...ql.inc.php on line 170 (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) Actually, that's GMT -5. --Travis Cobbs (20 years ago, 24-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) [snip] According to the following document published by the US Copyright Office: (URL) The relevant parts are: Any or all of the copyright owner's exclusive rights or any subdivision of those rights may be transferred, but the transfer of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) Anders, This is my fault. The poll module that we use opens and closes the polls automatically based on the dates and times inputted. Once the poll is opened, these the date/time values cannot be changed. I misinformed Tim that the poll would (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) I had nothing to do with the election (other than being a candidate), but I'd like to point out that when I see time given as a four-digit number without a colon, I know it is military time. Consequently 0800 is 8:00AM. Is this a US-only (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Enhancement to Parts Tracker review mechanism
 
it (URL) works!> (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
Note: I am from the U.S., so I am speaking about U.S. copyright law. Note IANAL, but as a graphic designer, copyright is a very important issue to me. The 1995 Artist's and Graphic Designer's Market (Edited by Mary Cox, Cincinnatti: Writer's Digest (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Yes, the CA requires this too. (...) No, that is covered by the modification clauses in the CCAL and CCSA licenses (...) Yes, if you wish to change the license, you have to ask. The daunting task of asking all authors is ahead, regardless of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Enhancement to Parts Tracker review mechanism
 
Until now ldraw.org members with only "Submitter" privileges, have had no ability within the Parts Tracker to respond to comments or Hold votes posted by reviewers. This has now been resolved. The submitter of the most recent edition of a file on (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(This post is resent, as I had a future date (2007!) on my computer the last time, and it seems that lugnet waits until that date to publish...) (...) chance), but a one week long voting period during summer vacations is rather short, especially (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Not all that great. Paul McCartney still performs his songs in concert. He still records old beatles songs from time to time, and sells those. Do you think he could do that if he had no rights in his work? No, Michael Jackson bought certain (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) No, actually, you are completly wrong. You cannot buy a "copyright." This is something that is created when a piece of intellectual property is created. The only exception to this is a work for hire, which you could think of as buying a (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I believe he only bought the *publishing* rights, not the copyright. But that's not really relevant to the Ldraw discussion, so I've Futted to debate. ROSCO (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) A great example of this is the Beatles library, which Michael Jackson bought at one point. (...) We have something along those lines in the US, but I think it's restricted solely to the requirement that you give credit where it's due. They (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) [snip] (...) Your statement is false. In the United States, copyrights are a form of intellectual property that can be bought and sold like any other form of property. In the United States, once the copyright has been transferred, the original (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2nd LSC: Election Results
 
(...) Let me the first to congratulate Lars and Tore. I look forward to working with you. Also, a big thank you to Kevin Clague and Michael Lachmann. These two were excellent comembers and I'm sad to see them go. -Orion P.S. Thanks to Tim for (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) If the parts authors are agreeing to liscence their parts to LDraw using this, then you may have a point in the sub-liscence section. However, my understanding is that the LDraw authors are giving liscence by using the CA. The creative commons (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Two things here are wrong: 1) copyrights can be transferred. they can be assigned or liscenced, but the original copyright holder is always the copyright holder. when people sign away thier copyrights, they are typically signing a liscence (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) (disclosure: I am not a lawyer. These are just the opinions of a semi-logical mind.) From reading the document, it appears as though the CA gives LDraw the authority to release the parts at all. LDraw has no formal agreement (e.g. a written (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  2nd LSC: Election Results
 
The second LSC vote has terminated. The 2004-2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee is: Jacob Sparre Andersen Steve Bliss Tore Eriksson Lars Hassing Orion Pobursky There were a total of 16 respondents. -Tim (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I'm not really sure what the CA says at this point in time. I was basing my statement off of the "Moving the LIcense Forward" message that Tim posted. (URL) In short, Tim stated that the both a CCAL (Createive Commons Attribution License) and (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) They are? The proposed CA doesn't say that, and that's not (necessarily) its intent. The CA is about the author granting LDraw.org a distribution license, along with further protections. Now, maybe that's what we *should* be talking about -- (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I honestly think that the CA immediately violates the CCAL (Creative Commons Attribution License) section 4a and is, thus, intrinsically unenforcable due to section 7a. Please read my other response to Orion the more complete response. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Orion: I'm not a lawyer, but I'll give you my opinion for what it is worth... In my opinion, the problem is that LDraw.Org has no legal authority to change a part license unless it owns the copyright to the part. Here is the relevant verbiage (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) I am not quite sure that is true (although I can argue for it in terms of Danish contract law). (...) It depends (the usual answer, when you start discussing legal problems). The problem I can see with the CA is related to the way it gives (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) You make some very good points. I do have one question though: Isn't getting the Author to agree to the change procedure the same as them giving to consent to change? In other words, I give permission to change the license if the follow (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) Orion: The Creative Commons Attribution License (CCAL) is irrevocable (read section 7.) You can not lose a part that has been released under CCAL. The original author is free to stop distributing the original work (in this case a part), but (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
(...) The CA really isn't a license in the traditional since. It's intended to be a codification of the current way we run acceptance of contributions (i.e. the status quo in words) with a little explanitory text thrown in and a procedure for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
I've been away the past week, hence my lack of contribution until now... What problem does the CA solve? Since all of the parts are individually released under a creative commons attribution license, there is nothing to prevent LDraw.Org (or me for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Contributer Agreement Version 3
 
Here's a link to Version 2 and the follow on discussion: (URL) version 3 of the CA. Again, if you have criticism, please also offer a solution if warrented. Changes: - Got rid of the "No Response" option. This is now incorporated into the text of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
 
(...) As far as I know this are accessible to everyone, from the lowest cost pass on up. -Orion (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX)
 
  Re: LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
 
(...) Cool, do you know if either of these sessions are accessable with the "Exhibits Plus" registrations? I'd like to save a few hundred bucks :) Take care, Gary (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX)
 
  LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
 
LDraw.org will host two back-to-back Birds of a Feather sessions at (URL) SIGGRAPH 2004> this year. Last year was LDraw.org's first year participating in SIGGRAPH. LDraw activities included an activity area at a LEGO fan booth and an introductory (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) I'd like a no-cost restriction. In other words, anything covered can be distributed for free. This doesn't mean you can't charge, it just means that you don't have to charge. Or maybe all this is implied by the above? Do we need to explicitly (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Yes, you're right, a combo of 1 & 2 should cover 3. When I was trimming so much out of your license I should have been more careful in adding bits :) Can anyone think of anything that ought to be in 'Base Level' of rights ? Peter (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) <snip> I like the rest of your comments so I've snipped them out. I do have a qustion on the below. (...) Isn't 3 redundant and cover by the 1? -Orion (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
Here is my take on this second version of the license Peter (...) And you've changed the first EndUser license from Creative Commons Share Alike License [1] to Creative Commons Attribute License [2] I presume this was because of the ShareAlike (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Thanks! Maybe even crosslink, with the first post in the continued tree pointing (with an explicit label) back to the root of the previous tree too. (...) Yes! (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Very good idea! (...) And it helps future readers when the linkage is spelled out explicitly. Steve (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: 2003-2004 LSC Annual Report
 
(...) (snip) (...) I'd like to personally thank the 2003-2004 LDraw.org Standards Committee for their hard work over the last year on behalf of the community. I am sure I am not speaking just for myself when I say that it is appreciated! (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) I wish 100 was a user selectable option, or an option by group or something. But I don't know enough server internals to know if that's feasible. (...) One of the primary ways that I do LUGNET research (and the way I used to do the research on (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) It would seem the general concensus that we need Licensing, so we need a license, even if it is hard to do. Agree? (...) Great. WHen you point out an issue with the license it is greatly appreciated that you provide an alternate solution to (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) Good suggestion given the way LUGNET is set up now. My main reason for posting revisions in the same thread is so the discussions following the various revisions can be linked. But, you are right, when it grows to over 100, then it becomes (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
(...) I'd like to request that future revisions be posted in a new thread. It would be easier to follow discussions that way. I'm making this request primarily because this thread has grown to over 100 messages. But it really applies to any "request (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Contributer Agreement v2
 
Some of my points are relatively minor/subtle, but it's better to bring them up now. (...) Instead of "parts", I would prefer "work" or some other term that's relatively generic. Not all files are actually part files -- besides the sub-part files (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) I've already handled Don's issue. If anyone else has problems, please contact me directly. -Orion (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) Were you logged in at the time? Try it if you're logged in. I am assuming you're an org member already so the delay part shouldn't apply... If you still get the error, please send a mail to one of us with full details of each URL you clicked, (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Contributer Agreement v2
 
Here's the CA v2. If you have criticism, please also offer a proposed solution. Summary of changes: - Added a 33% majority for passage instead of a simple majority - A general reordering and rewording of the entire document. The LDraw.org Steering (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
(...) Why does it say this at the top of the ballot? "You are not authorized. Please contact the webmaster if you have doubt." That's somewhat confusing. Does it mean my votes don't count? Don (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw.org Standards Committee election now open
 
The election is now underway. For more details please see this article: (URL) If you have any questions or concerns please contact a Steering Committee member. Election will run for a week. Good luck to all candidates! Larry Pieniazek for the (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) And yet you appear to be trying to write one, the contributor agreement. Although I don't have any particular experience in writing licenses, I have done a fair bit of work with them, at one point my company required me to read and understand (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  2003-2004 LSC Annual Report
 
LSC Annual Report August 2003 - July 2004: During this period of time the LSC handled the following issues to completion: - A location was established on the ldraw.org website listing all of the current LDraw library updates. This page is script (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) I agree. (...) Currently LDraw.org has control once it is submitted, so the licence should be agreed to upon submission. You could set it up so authors only have to agree once a file is certified, before including it in the official library, (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) I think this is a PT policy issue and not a license issue. (...) Per the CA, upon submission to LDraw.org. -Orion (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) All humor aside, is this really a license issue, or a parts tracker policy issue? I know this has been a big issue in the past and I don't want to ignore it, but I'm not sure it is a license issue. It in some ways asks the question of when (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) I won't burden steve with work, but two simple checkboxes at the PT's submit page saying: # Be aware that by touching my parts you will have to face the entire italian mafia and end up in nice brand new concrete boots # I'm not Willy, fix them (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Moving the License Forward
 
(...) I think you might be on to something. What's a good definition of ACTIVE? Some ideas I had: a) did activity x within the last y time periods (x could be any of authored, reviewed, participated in a discussion or other) or b) responded to the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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