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Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:47:32 GMT
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I've been away the past week, hence my lack of contribution until now...
What problem does the CA solve? Since all of the parts are individually
released under a creative commons attribution license, there is nothing
to prevent LDraw.Org (or me for that matter) from collecting the various
parts together and releasing them as a library.
I've inserted a couple of comments in the agreement below.
Totally confused,
-Wayne
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> Here's a link to Version 2 and the follow on discussion:
> http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=3286&t=i&v=a
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> Here's version 3 of the CA. Again, if you have criticism, please also offer a
> solution if warrented.
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> Changes:
> - Got rid of the "No Response" option. This is now incorporated into the text
> of the change procedure
> - Added a base rights paragraph
> - Explanation of what happens after the vote results are announced
> - Fixed minor typographical and grammatical errors
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> The LDraw.org Steering Committee
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> *-*-*-*-*-*
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> Parts Library Contributor Agreement
> Version: 3 (17-Jul-04)
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> By submitting work to LDraw.org, the submitter ("the Author"), agrees to the
> following terms.
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> The Author agrees to grant LDraw.org, at no-charge, a non-exclusive, irrevocable
> license to distribute said work as a component of the LDraw.org Official Library
> ("the Library").
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> LDraw.org agrees to distribute the Library, and all its contents, to the public
> under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License ("the User
> License"). LDraw.org may suspend or discontinue distribution of the Library as
> it sees fit.
This is really confusing. Only the person who owns the copyright can specify
the license. Unless you are planning on transferring copyright ownership from
the part owner to LDraw.Org, the paragraph above makes no sense (to me.)
> By submitting parts to LDraw.org, the Author grants permission to other authors
> to create derivative works of their submission for the purposes of creating
> additional parts to submit to the library.
The Creative Commons Attribution license already does this.
> If it becomes necessary to change either the Contributor Agreement or the User
> License, the Author agrees to the following process for securing permission to
> make such change.
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> Any future User License or Contributor Agreement proposed will grant at least
> these rights:
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> - The right to modify licensed work and base new works on it.
> - The right to distribute work covered by the license to other people.
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> Authors will be contacted by an LDraw.org representative and asked to respond to
> the request using one of the following responses:
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> - Approval.
> - Rejection.
> - Abstain.
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> All reasonable attempts to contact the author will be deemed made when there are
> public announcements posted on LDraw.org and LUGNET (where LUGNET is the primary
> location of LDraw.org-related public discussion), and an email message is sent
> to the author using the address on record.
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> The vote will be tallied after a 60 day period has expired. A non response will
> mean that the Author will authorize his/her submissions under the new license
> terms, if adopted. A majority will be deemed reached if the number of approval
> votes is:
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> - Greater than the number of rejection votes
> - At least 33% of the total vote (approval, rejection, and abstain).
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> If a majority is reached, the changes to the license(s) will be applied
> retroactively to all contributions made to the library, by all authors. If a
> majority is not reached, no change will be made to either the license(s) or the
> Library.
>
> The license change procedure is intended as an assurance to the user that parts
> will not disappear from the library in the future unless there are technical
> reasons to do so, protecting their investment of time spent creating and sharing
> virtual models using the parts.
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Message has 3 Replies:
 | | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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| (...) The CA really isn't a license in the traditional since. It's intended to be a codification of the current way we run acceptance of contributions (i.e. the status quo in words) with a little explanitory text thrown in and a procedure for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
| | | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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| (...) They are? The proposed CA doesn't say that, and that's not (necessarily) its intent. The CA is about the author granting LDraw.org a distribution license, along with further protections. Now, maybe that's what we *should* be talking about -- (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
| | | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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| (...) (disclosure: I am not a lawyer. These are just the opinions of a semi-logical mind.) From reading the document, it appears as though the CA gives LDraw the authority to release the parts at all. LDraw has no formal agreement (e.g. a written (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Contributer Agreement Version 3
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| Here's a link to Version 2 and the follow on discussion: (URL) version 3 of the CA. Again, if you have criticism, please also offer a solution if warrented. Changes: - Got rid of the "No Response" option. This is now incorporated into the text of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) !
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