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Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:26:06 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Wayne Gramlich wrote:
> <snip>
> Indeed, I'll go one step further, the CA is totally unenforcable.
> Unless, LDraw.Org requires that the part copyrights be
> transferred to LDraw.Org, it is completely illegal for LDraw.Org
> to change the license to the parts without getting permission
> from each part owner. Only the copyright holder can change
> the license. No amount of verbiage you put in the CA is going
> to give LDraw.Org that permission unless there is an actual
> transfer of part copyrights to LDraw.Org. Luckily, there is no
> need to change the CCAL since its only requirement is that
> you keep the original author attribution with the part.
You make some very good points. I do have one question though:
Isn't getting the Author to agree to the change procedure the same as them
giving to consent to change? In other words, I give permission to change the
license if the follow conditions are met. Is the fact that it's conditional a
problem?
-Orion
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| (...) I am not quite sure that is true (although I can argue for it in terms of Danish contract law). (...) It depends (the usual answer, when you start discussing legal problems). The problem I can see with the CA is related to the way it gives (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| (...) Orion: I'm not a lawyer, but I'll give you my opinion for what it is worth... In my opinion, the problem is that LDraw.Org has no legal authority to change a part license unless it owns the copyright to the part. Here is the relevant verbiage (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| (...) Orion: The Creative Commons Attribution License (CCAL) is irrevocable (read section 7.) You can not lose a part that has been released under CCAL. The original author is free to stop distributing the original work (in this case a part), but (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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