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Re: Contributer Agreement v2
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
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Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:18:25 GMT
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Some of my points are relatively minor/subtle, but it's better to bring them up
now.
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> Here's the CA v2. If you have criticism, please also offer a proposed
> solution.
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> By submitting parts to LDraw.org, the part author (from here forward the
> "Author,") agrees to the following terms.
Instead of "parts", I would prefer "work" or some other term that's relatively
generic. Not all files are actually part files -- besides the sub-part files
there are also super-part files. Also, someone may 'contribute' work that is
only a (small) portion of a file. And the library admins contribute work that
can't exactly be aligned be with files anyway.
> By submitting parts to the LDraw.org, the Author agrees to grant LDraw.org
> the non-exclusive right, at no charge, to distribute said parts in
> perpetuity, to the public, under the Creative Commons Attribution License.
Probably can drop "By submitting parts to the LDraw.org,". It's redundant.
A couple of subtle things - this language grants an (implicitly) revokable
license for perpetual distribution. Maybe something more like:
The Author agrees to grant LDraw.org a non-exclusive, irrevocable
no-charge license to distribute said work as a component of the
LDraw.org Parts Library[1] ("the Library").
LDraw.org agrees to distribute the Library, and all its contents,
to the public under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution
License ("the User License"). LDraw.org may suspend or discontinue
distribution of the Library as it sees fit.[2]
(that second part might go later in the document - so all the "Author agrees"
bits are in one place, and the "LDraw.org agrees" bits are in another)
> LDraw.org is under no obligation accept the submitted work and, if accepted,
> may suspend distribution for any length of time as it sees fit.
I don't feel we really need to talk about distribution of the individual work.
The library is distributed, works are included, modified, refactored, or deleted
from the library. So maybe something more like:
LDraw.org is under no obligation accept the submitted work and, if
accepted, may choose to include or exclude the work from the Library
as it sees fit.
Upon inclusion of the work in the Library, the Author grants permission
to other authors to update the work as necessary.
BTW, you probably need a definition of "authors" somewhere. So far in this
document, "Author" is "the person on the submitting end of this agreement".
> By submitting parts to LDraw.org, the Author grants permission to other
> authors to create derivative works of their submission for the purposes of
> creating additional parts to submit to the library.
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> If in the future, LDraw.org leadership deems it necessary to change the
> license the Parts Library is distributed under, the Author agrees to the
> following process for securing permission to make the change.
Change "LDraw.org leadership deems it" to "it becomes".
Change "the license the Parts Library is distributed under" to "either the
Contributor Agreement or the User License".
Change "make the change" to "make such change". Yeah, I know, it's NBD.
> Authors will be contacted and asked to respond to the request using any of
> the four available responses:
Contacted by? Other authors? I'd recommend "contacted by a representative of
LDraw.org".
> - Approval.
> - Rejection.
> - Abstain.
> - No response.
>
> All reasonable attempts to contact the author will be deemed made when there
> are public announcements posted on LDraw.org and LUGNET (where LUGNET is the
> primary location of LDraw.org-related public discussion), and an email
> message is sent to the author using the address on record.
>
> The vote will be tallied after the 60 day period has expired. A "no
change "the 60" to "a 60".
> response" will not count towards the total for which a majority will be
> measured; however, a "no response" indicates that the author will authorize
> his/her submissions under the new license terms, if adopted. A majority
> will be deemed reached if the number of approval votes is:
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> - Greater than the number of rejection votes
> - At least 33% of the total vote (approval, rejection, and abstain).
Add something like:
If a majority is reached, the changes to the license(s) will be applied
retroactively to all contributions made to the library, by all authors.
If a majority is not reached, no change will be made to either the
license(s) or the Library.
That needs to be stated explicitly because otherwise we're open to the
interpretation that a 'no' vote means an author is opting out of the change
(going back to the issue of someone getting their worked removed from the
library).
> The license change procedure is intended as an assurance to the user that
> parts will not disappear from the library in the future unless there are
> technical reasons to do so, protecting their investment of time spent
> creating and sharing virtual models using the parts.
--
Steve
1) I'd like to throw out the idea that we take 'parts' out of the library's
name. It already contains (somewhat) more than parts. Maybe the 'LDraw Modeling
Library' would be a better name.
2) Discussion of LDraw.org's discontinuance of distribution could be an entirely
separate paragraph, but I suspect it's covered in the charter, in regards to
distribution of assets when the organization dissolves.
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| Here's the CA v2. If you have criticism, please also offer a proposed solution. Summary of changes: - Added a 33% majority for passage instead of a simple majority - A general reordering and rewording of the entire document. The LDraw.org Steering (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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